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Post by Roshan on May 15, 2021 18:40:59 GMT -5
He has been going through the alphabet to do all the countries in the world for six years, along with some other geographical commentary. He is up to Spain now and his channel has 2.6 million subscribers. Here is an earlier video. More recent ones have more people on camera with him and are a bit more elaborate, not much.
TeSi, I assume--rather confidently but nonetheless I will do my usual ct reality check before I proceed. I have quite a bit to say about this type.
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Post by Roshan on May 15, 2021 19:11:59 GMT -5
To see how closely he's adhered to his recipe as he's developed, here's Spain. I see I must be karmically connected to my presumed supervisee, as the first one I chose shows him at the end trying to fix a boo-boo and this one is on banner day--first time with two co-hosts. He also reveals his secret formula. (And then there is Spain and me but I digress. Adelante.)
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Post by Roshan on May 15, 2021 19:35:51 GMT -5
Oh, I see he also takes a bold and brave stance on the hot button topic of colonialism. How nice. This was really banner day.  This video gets tedious because there's just so much to say about Spain, and so much people already know, so you really see how the Ni PolR and Fi inferior prevent him from making the best choices and bringing it together--regardless of who his intended audience is. But the ones on lesser known countries really do 'do the job'. Even for me, as primers, and I doubt I'm his intended audience. Anyway so Ni PolR and Fi inferior yah? |
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Post by Roshan on May 15, 2021 20:07:56 GMT -5
Doing the job from @1'07" to 1'16" crystalizes a huge problem with this type. This is Ne agenda flag planting and self back patting. Which fine whatever, this aspect of TeSi is usually pretty innocuous for TEaching and TEchnics and it can be really positive too--like I'm sure his eleven year old viewers ate that up. But it's when precisely this plays out of its league that you start to get the TeSi cult leaders. There are a number of other things that can and do go wrong with my supervisees but this one is most on my mind at this time. If he's not TeSi just chloroform me.
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Post by vincent on May 16, 2021 7:47:37 GMT -5
Yep, absolutely TeSi.
And good thing i won't have to chloroform you because he already chloroformed me.
Sort of.
On one hand the constant flow of Si factoids goes too fast for me.
On the other hand i keep wondering "when does it really start ?" and it never does.
In both cases, i lose focus and the Te-Ne perpetual motion (let's move on) makes me dizzy.
Don't get me wrong, he is certainly very good at what he does.
It's just how conflicting relationship works, even in the best case scenario.
And since it's about Te frame vs Te polr, it's never the right rythm or the right timing.
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Post by vincent on May 16, 2021 8:01:53 GMT -5
Doing the job from @1'07" to 1'16" crystalizes a huge problem with this type. This is Ne agenda flag planting and self back patting. Which fine whatever, this aspect of TeSi is usually pretty innocuous for TEaching and TEchnics and it can be really positive too--like I'm sure his eleven year old viewers ate that up. But it's when precisely this plays out of its league that you start to get the TeSi cult leaders. Yes, i completely agree. Actually, the most popular "youtuber teachers" on a given topic are very likely to be TeSi.
Their cognitive stack kind of "works wonder" (Te > Ne). And when it does, it really does.
But when unhealthy... and with so many 11 year old adults out there, the same thing gives you a recipe for disaster.
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Post by vincent on May 16, 2021 8:07:27 GMT -5
Anyway so Ni PolR and Fi inferior yah?
Yes. He just won't dive or dig.
Lots of breadth, as broad as the Earth, but no depth.
He is also a good example of delta Fe role.
Goofy and over-the-top. With lots of "winks".
which is very very different from gamma Fe role.
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Post by Roshan on May 16, 2021 8:15:38 GMT -5
Yep, absolutely TeSi.
And good thing i won't have to chloroform you because he already chloroformed me.
Sort of.
On one hand the constant flow of Si factoids goes too fast for me.
On the other hand i keep wondering "when does it really start ?" and it never does.
In both cases, i lose focus and the Te-Ne perpetual motion (let's move on) makes me dizzy.
Don't get me wrong, he is certainly very good at what he does.
It's just how conflicting relationship works, even in the best case scenario.
And since it's about Te frame vs Te polr, it's never the right rythm or the right timing.
See, this is so interesting. I think his videos are adorable and charming as long as he sticks with the lesser known countries. And that it SEEMS the world would be a much better place if most TeSi's were more like him. I have absolutely no problem with the lesser known country videos. The only question--and it's a big question, hence SEEMS^-- is whether he'd be healthy enough to accept supervision (or input from his dual or semi-dual FiNe or FiSe ) to go on to the next phase and improve the videos, or if it would push his Se demo buttons and he'd become belligerent and then tyrannical. And the next thing you know there'd be a fundamentalist Geography Now! cult.So your reaction and mine once again show how all that separates supervision from conflict is the relationship of the frame of the...um...let's call it guinea pig. Barby's frame is my tool but it's your PolR. |
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Post by Roshan on May 16, 2021 8:28:42 GMT -5
The issue of supervision would be first to improve the more popular country videos (mostly), THEN to decide whether he wants to stay in his lane and make kind of fun visual encyclopedias, or if he wants to delve more into commentary. We see him falter clumsily wanting to take a stance basically against anti-imperialism. He would have to choose to do this or not to and then articulate to himself first and foremost what his stances are and who his intended audience is. Then he would have to give up something (being the YouTube geography "Book of Knowledge") in order to gain something in that arena.
But he wouldn't have to make that second choice. He could just stay in his lane. The videos on lesser known places SEEMED to me like they could stay as they are but if they are that disorienting to you they would need SOME improvement too. But the major issue is with the well-known countries. Spain really meanders. I haven't even finished watching it yet and I studied in Spain and have been there three times, twice hitchhiking alone. You would think I'd have watched to the end with baited breath.
My point is for ME all this is very clear (because he's my supervisee) and none of it is a problem. If he wants to stay in his lane fine. If he wants to grow, fine too. We need encyclopedias for young people and we need critical commentary too.
The problem that sticks out for me is how much potential does he have to resist becoming a tyrant (Se demo and shadow agenda) if someone like me were to challenge him on quality in his expert status as the YouTube geography king.
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Post by vincent on May 16, 2021 8:35:16 GMT -5
See, this is so interesting. I think his videos are adorable and charming as long as he sticks with the lesser known countries.
What's the thing.
The supervising advice for TeSi is pretty much always going to include some kind of "stick with".
And it's very hard to predict how they will take it.
Which makes assessing their health level pretty tricky. Do they stay in their league because they are healthy or are they healthy because they are still in their league ?
All it takes sometimes is a few "fans" feeding their ego and actively working against the supervisor efforts.
Yes indeed.
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Post by Roshan on May 16, 2021 8:39:36 GMT -5
All it takes sometimes is a few "fans" feeding their ego and actively working against the supervisor efforts.
Well, you can already see how he adopts this strange pose between Napoleon and Saint Francis of Assisi while he 'humbly defers' to letting his two co-hosts speak on banner day. It's so odd--he seems almost like a wax museum figure. It does not bode entirely well imo. |
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Post by Roshan on May 16, 2021 8:46:58 GMT -5
The Te (with Se demo) is the Napoleon aspect (and Auburn identified Te with king energy). The Saint Francis is the Ne with the Ni PolR--remember, we're talking wax museum here!
There is this 'authority' of I'm so good, I care for the animals, all the animals love me, and so does brother sun and sister moon, with TeSi, along with the more bureaucratic to militaristic authority of worldly rule of the Te/Se aspect. The combination is just what I said--half Napoleon and half Saint Francis. And it can get pretty dangerous pretty quickly. While still continuing to SEEM innocuous.
And it's everywhere in modern culture. In our schools, our bureaucracies, our social services...but it is also in our arts and in psychology, and it is having a FIELD DAY in typology and other Internet-based 'spiritual systems'.
Why I say the world would be better if they were like Barby. I mean Barby COULD become the tyrant of YouTube geography but at least people would still be learning geography.
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Post by ahmed on May 16, 2021 8:48:23 GMT -5
Usually I zone out 2 minutes in or less to that kind of videos, even when there is nothing wrong with them.
I just get kinda...brain foggy 👀
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Post by vincent on May 16, 2021 8:51:58 GMT -5
The issue of supervision would be first to improve the more popular country videos (mostly), THEN to decide whether he wants to stay in his lane and make kind of fun visual encyclopedias, or if he wants to delve more into commentary. We see him falter clumsily wanting to take a stance basically against anti-imperialism. He would have to choose to do this or not to and then articulate to himself first and foremost what his stances are and who his intended audience is. Then he would have to give up something (being the YouTube geography "Book of Knowledge") in order to gain something in that arena. But he wouldn't have to make that second choice. He could just stay in his lane. The videos on lesser known places SEEMED to me like they could stay as they are but if they are that disorienting to you they would need SOME improvement too. But the major issue is with the well-known countries. Spain really meanders. I haven't even finished watching it yet and I studied in Spain and have been there three times, twice hitchhiking alone. You would think I'd have watched to the end with baited breath. My point is for ME all this is very clear (because he's my supervisee) and none of it is a problem. If he wants to stay in his lane fine. If he wants to grow, fine too. We need encyclopedias for young people and we need critical commentary too. Well, part of the problem here is the delineation of the Ne agenda (or the lack of it).
The terms of the choice are very clear for you, as his supervisor, but they are very likely to not be that clear for him.
Because of Ni polr lack of discerning and because of Ne agenda "push".
Those TeSi often doesn't even see where are the borders of their lane exactly.
And their idea of growing is usually something like "moving forward".
So they are like Icarus, flying over the seas.
Blue above them. Blue under them.
And it's very easy for them to lose sight of the line of the horizon.
And when it happens, they can't follow the sobering advice of Daedalus anymore.
That's very hard to say. And it would depends a lot on his "fandom" and on the "ecology" of his channel, so to speak.
I might be wrong about this but it seems to me that TeSi, being interfacer dominant with Si tool, are very very sensitive to "environmental" factors.
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Post by Roshan on May 16, 2021 8:57:41 GMT -5
Oh, tbc, when I say he faltered clumsily taking a stance against anti- colonialism, I meant against the current abstract anti-colonialist, decolonization, etc. movements, not against colonialism itself. His stance imo is correct. What's done is done. If you're making your 'anti-colonialist' argument on a computer and you have no problem with that paradox, you are already not completely 'anti-colonialist' historically by far, so stop and think. I was tongue in cheek about it because he was so clumsy, tepid and tentative, not because it's not a serious topic. It is. But...Ni PolR and Fi inferior....he just does not really know why he's doing all this ultimately or who it's for. vincent |
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