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Post by Roshan on May 18, 2021 17:36:18 GMT -5
Another thing is he is much more interested in how people move the levers of power through manipulating image in the delta glamour machine than the nuts and bolts of the gritty backrooms. He's kind of set himself up as the 'anti-dandy'. I think that's part of what the avatar is about. As such, he is still in orbis dandius (pardon my Latin).
Yes, that sounds very right to me.
See, while Ryan Long smartly, scathingly, and successfully debunks his targets he also simultaneously elevates them to the status of being worth our time.
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Post by Roshan on May 18, 2021 17:37:32 GMT -5
And that's why he's (presumably) my mirage.
I could take just so much of this.
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Post by Roshan on May 18, 2021 17:43:21 GMT -5
Like if TPAS could give ONE inch, make ONE concession and hold onto it, the whole thing would be worth my time. Because he's really interested in the levers of power.
Ryan Long is interested in the power of image.
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Post by vincent on May 18, 2021 17:45:57 GMT -5
He actually reminds me of an another comedian i stumbled upon a long time ago but i had forgotten the name of the channel. Until now. I just found it again :
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Post by Roshan on May 18, 2021 17:47:23 GMT -5
I don't mean HIS image, I mean he's interested in how image holds power and authority over us, and in debunking it.
(Well, triple attached 3, he hits all bases--image, power, authority).
But there are much darker and murkier echelons of power behind those images and he doesn't touch them much. Even with "The Governors" he makes it into a Hollywood movie. He's good to go for the next edgy wave of late night MSM comics...even if by MSM we mean the 'new improved' YouTube ecosystem.
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Post by Roshan on May 18, 2021 17:48:56 GMT -5
He actually reminds me of an another comedian i stumbled upon a long time ago but i had forgotten the name of the channel. Until now. I just found it again :
Oh, I was going to put him here too at some point vincent. I know his stuff well. But JP I think is a healthy FeNe, a lot of whose routine is based on making fun of how other people undervalue Fi.
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Post by vincent on May 18, 2021 17:51:16 GMT -5
Like if TPAS could give ONE inch, make ONE concession and hold onto it, the whole thing would be worth my time. Because he's really interested in the levers of power. Ryan Long is interested in the power of image.
Well, i think it's all the difference between Ni seeking and Ni ignoring.
By refusing to make his position explicit and to engage in an actual discussion about it, Ryan Long is ultimately just surfing on the surface of the current alpha/delta madness. And he is not looking at the horrors that lies below that surface.
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Post by Roshan on May 18, 2021 17:54:10 GMT -5
Like if TPAS could give ONE inch, make ONE concession and hold onto it, the whole thing would be worth my time. Because he's really interested in the levers of power. Ryan Long is interested in the power of image.
Well, i think it's all the difference between Ni seeking and Ni ignoring.
By refusing to make his position explicit and to engage in an actual discussion about it, Ryan Long is ultimately just surfing on the surface of the current alpha/delta madness. And he is not looking at the horrors that lies below that surface.
And profiting off of it. In that sense, he is very much interested in the power of his own image.
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Post by vincent on May 18, 2021 17:54:35 GMT -5
Oh, I was going to put him here too at some point vincent . I know his stuff well. But JP I think is a healthy FeNe, a lot of whose routine is based on making fun of how other people undervalue Fi.
Well healthy FeNe would explain why he quickly fell under my radar and i forgot about him. I have enough supervisees already, and most of them would be less healthy than he is.
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Post by Roshan on May 18, 2021 18:00:00 GMT -5
"Well, i think it's all the difference between Ni seeking and Ni ignoring. By refusing to make his position explicit and to engage in an actual discussion about it, Ryan Long is ultimately just surfing on the surface of the current alpha/delta madness. And he is not looking at the horrors that lies below that surface." But doesn't this also have to do with jumped over Fi, vincent?
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Post by Roshan on May 18, 2021 18:01:16 GMT -5
Well healthy FeNe would explain why he quickly fell under my radar and i forgot about him. I have enough supervisees already, and most of them would be less healthy than he is.
JP is the only healthy FeSi of any configuration in the entire world.
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Post by Roshan on May 18, 2021 18:01:36 GMT -5
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Post by vincent on May 18, 2021 18:02:38 GMT -5
And profiting off of it. In that sense, he is very much interested in the power of his own image.
Yes indeed.
And the thing is... with him i get the feeling that he would also do a wonderful job and have a wonderful time working on the other side of the fence.
Like so many NeFis actually do.
In another life, with different "stance choices"...
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Post by vincent on May 18, 2021 18:04:08 GMT -5
But doesn't this also have to do with jumped over Fi, vincent ?
Yes indeed. And you're absolutely right about his "lack of moral compass".
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Post by Roshan on May 18, 2021 18:08:42 GMT -5
Right, so Ni isn't 'all the difference' vincent .
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