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Post by Roshan on Apr 23, 2021 17:13:59 GMT -5
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Post by Roshan on Apr 23, 2021 18:01:17 GMT -5
After you've voted you can look at any materials you want to but don't discuss with anyone from here until the poll closes at 6 pm NYC time on Sunday the 25th.
After that time you can post whatever materials you want here and make whatever comments you want.
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Post by Roshan on Apr 24, 2021 8:11:56 GMT -5
bump
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Post by Roshan on Apr 25, 2021 14:26:59 GMT -5
This poll is ending today at 6 pm NYC time and then I hope discussion will begin. I have to bring my laptop in to be repaired today so I'll be checking in but won't really be able to participate until I get it back (because no, my cell phone's just a flip phone with optional Internet charged per minute). So I'll just say that the two votes (I can see them) were my first choice but they did not hold up when I looked into him.
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Post by vincent on Apr 25, 2021 14:45:58 GMT -5
This poll is ending today at 6 pm NYC time and then I hope discussion will begin. I have to bring my laptop in to be repaired today so I'll be checking in but won't really be able to participate until I get it back (because no, my cell phone's just a flip phone with optional Internet charged per minute). So I'll just say that the two votes (I can see them) were my first choice but they did not hold up when I looked into him.
That's intriguing.
I'll look into more materials tonight or tomorrow morning (my time).
Good luck with that repair and with that forced break. Talk to you soon !
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Post by ahmed on Apr 25, 2021 17:08:43 GMT -5
This poll is ending today at 6 pm NYC time and then I hope discussion will begin. I have to bring my laptop in to be repaired today so I'll be checking in but won't really be able to participate until I get it back (because no, my cell phone's just a flip phone with optional Internet charged per minute). So I'll just say that the two votes (I can see them) were my first choice but they did not hold up when I looked into him. oops had only watched some few minutes & was gonna vote SeTi. But thought i should watch a tad bit more then vote after break fast and yeah, time zones got me confused thought i still had an hour
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Post by Roshan on Apr 25, 2021 17:13:25 GMT -5
It's okay ahmed . So that's two FeNi and two SeTi and I'm at Apple about to relinquish my laptop and that...is verrrry interesting.
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Post by vincent on Apr 26, 2021 10:02:55 GMT -5
Ok so for now all voters thought he is a beta extravert. Either FeNi or SeTi.
I'm sure it's indicative of... something, but it doesn't mean that one of those two options will turn out to be right.
I must say i voted FeNi without much conviction, because he reminded me a bit of Richard Grannon and of some FeNis i knew in real life.
The "bad boy", contrarian and trollish subset of FeNi.
But the thing is, that's an impression based on a stage performance. And those impressions can be very misleading.
Overall, i saw a lot of Fe and Se, some Ne.
In some order. And the comedic context makes it pretty hard to slot anything.
What did you guys saw ? Why did you vote the way you did ?
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Post by vincent on Apr 26, 2021 10:12:54 GMT -5
Hmm Maybe beta, maybe extravert
but both at the same time ?
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Post by Amy on Apr 26, 2021 10:20:54 GMT -5
I voted SeTi but I agree that the comedic context makes it hard to slot anything.
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Post by vincent on Apr 26, 2021 10:39:25 GMT -5
And the thing is, he is performing in some way in the vast majority of the videos i've seen so far.
Even in older stuff actually.
Who hit the charts with this video :
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Post by vincent on Apr 26, 2021 10:42:55 GMT -5
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Post by ahmed on Apr 26, 2021 10:58:23 GMT -5
Ok so for now all voters thought he is a beta extravert. Either FeNi or SeTi.
I'm sure it's indicative of... something, but it doesn't mean that one of those two options will turn out to be right.
I must say i voted FeNi without much conviction, because he reminded me a bit of Richard Grannon and of some FeNis i knew in real life.
The "bad boy", contrarian and trollish subset of FeNi.
But the thing is, that's an impression based on a stage performance. And those impressions can be very misleading.
Overall, i saw a lot of Fe, Se, Ne.
In some order. And the comedic context makes it pretty hard to slot anything.
What did you guys saw ? Why did you vote the way you did ?
Something didn't seem organic about how he held the room to sell on FeNi, like heavy "on the act" of trollish but it still being an act, but it was also my second guess. But yea stage comedy impressions
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Post by vincent on Apr 26, 2021 11:35:17 GMT -5
Something didn't seem organic about how he held the room to sell on FeNi, like heavy "on the act" of trollish but it still being an act,
Yeah, i see what you mean and that's a good point.
But the thing is, if it's not organic enough to sell on FeNi, it seems a bit too organic to sell on SeTi, imo.
When SeTi trolls (and they often do) it usually has a ferocious, merciless quality.
It comes with a Te 6th battleaxe, and you can feel that it's not "just for fun".
There is a "i don't care", "haters gonna hate" attitude behind it.
I don't really get that impression from him. He is having a lot of fun, a really great time, and he still want us to know that he is actually a nice guy.
Maybe with Fi polr as power... but i'm not convinced yet.
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Post by Roshan on Apr 26, 2021 14:22:54 GMT -5
And the thing is, he is performing in some way in the vast majority of the videos i've seen so far.
He has tons of videos where he's just talking directly to fans, he has tons of videos where he's outside 'interviewing' people one on one, which are comedic but they're not staged and they're very different from actual performances, and there are also videos where he's interviewed straight on. It's just not true that offstage he's fundamentally performing more than other people on video do--because they do.
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