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Post by Roshan on Jul 16, 2021 12:46:29 GMT -5
btw this is as good a time as any to say again: We can't go on using say sx/so to mean the stacking in general and the midstream variant. To be clear, SX/so is single variant high sx, low soc, lower sp; sx/SO is double variant soc competes with sx. But sx/so means BOTH midstream high sx, middle social, and low sp AND just the entire sx/so stacking. We really can't keep doing this. It's a huge pain in the ass to have to keep clarifying which one is meant. So I'd appreciate some input here. Amy , anthony , vincent , winter , anybody...
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Post by Roshan on Jul 16, 2021 12:50:12 GMT -5
Some possibilities would be, say, to use SX/SO, *sx/so*, sx-so, sx\so....none of which I like.
Italics sx/so I hate a little less.
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Post by vincent on Jul 16, 2021 13:20:36 GMT -5
Italics sx/so I hate a little less.
Yeah. I agree. All the possibilities i can think off right now are worse.
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Post by Roshan on Jul 16, 2021 13:58:37 GMT -5
sx/so
sxso
sx/soS
Ssx/so
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Post by Roshan on Jul 16, 2021 15:16:32 GMT -5
I'm linking Beatrice Chestnut's descriptions of the i.v.'s for E2 because she made her career with her book that feigned erudition by quoting Naranjo every third sentence. This while availing herself extensively of Don and Russ without attribution (not that they focused on the i.v.'s), so I assume she did it to curry favor with Naranjo and seem original at the same time. She herself types as a 2 and I find her, not surprisingly, predatory; I think she may be an sp/sx. (Her comic pretense of erudition could easily be social last). Be that as it may her her descriptions more or less encapsulate the 'state of the (pop) art'. There is a lot to think about here, a lot of 'issues'. I'll throw in her video interviewing Twos too.
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Post by Roshan on Jul 16, 2021 15:28:56 GMT -5
I'll also cook up something with Eli's i.v. descriptions because he had multiple teachers back in the day, including The Forgotten Master Teacher, Kathleen Speeth. Kathleen Speeth must have been very, very good. What I mean is he was a very good synthesizer. His 2 recording in the Study Hall should discuss the i.v.'s at the end too. And here's the recordings of Naranjo's presentation where he introduced his sp 2 to the larger 'community'. For as long as it lasts on yt, it's contraband. Then we have the summaries on that thread. I'm going to try to get some fresh perspective on all this 2 stacking stuff and hopefully we can now start to move toward a new synthesis, and I'll try not to think out loud here much before I have more clarity.
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Post by Roshan on Jul 16, 2021 15:51:20 GMT -5
But, as a prelude:
for instance, sx 2 is "Aggression and Seduction". Has this held up? What does this mean? My question still remains to some extent as it did when we started out on this trip: Where are all these sx 2 bombshell heartbreaker sirens who turn ships into shreds? The really juicy ones? Why doesn't anybody seem to know them? Margaret Trudeau really seems to me to be sx/SP but she's no va va va va voom. Dolly Parton is more so but how is she aggressive? And she "dolls herself up" a la sp 2, at least as the concept. I have as yet searched in vain for more Brigitte Bardots. Where are they? Marilyn 6, Ursula 6, Sophia 9, JeLo, LDR, sp/sx. LDR isn't even like that in real life. At all. KFauvre thinks Liz Taylor was a 2, is Madonna after all sx 2w3?. She was very seductive when she was very young. Princess Di seems sp/so with a 5w4 fix to me but it is said that in person she was stunningly mesmerizingly beautiful. Was she sx/sp? On another note, what about Betty Broderick? Is that sp/so or so/sp? I feel comfortable with Fiona as so/sp for various reasons I didn't go into but if it's right it should change a lot of things. The list goes on. And so I websearch for examples of sx 2 and I don't get much, but I do get Tammy Wynette, who is excruciatingly obviously sp first. i.v. theory and stacking theory have barely even begun to be synthesized, and especially not with Twos.
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Post by Roshan on Jul 16, 2021 17:51:37 GMT -5
Madge, I am moving you. Sylvia was right. You are a 2. jastyne is also probably right. You may very well be Ssx/sp, not Ssx/so. That said, Circe you are not.
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Post by Roshan on Jul 16, 2021 18:21:24 GMT -5
Liz Taylor has a classic sx voice (not the funny one she makes in this first vid tho!). The typing of her has been split between 2w3 and 7 lead. Some time ago I settled on the 7 but we'll see.
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Post by Roshan on Jul 16, 2021 18:27:31 GMT -5
Once again, this is the one we have to tie Odysseus to the ship for. And again, classic sx voice.
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Post by Roshan on Jul 16, 2021 18:34:51 GMT -5
Brit Ekland was already 40 years old in the second video at a time when it wasn't so easy to maintain your youthful looks. There may not have been a female 'sex symbol' over 40, in the US at least, until the hit tv show Dynasty in the 80's.
Brit also classic sx voice. She appears to be an sx/sp midstream Mesmerizer 2w3. She had some of the Bardot, some of the Sharon Tate...
Wouldn't it be hilarious if Madge turned out to be sp/SO tho?
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Post by Roshan on Jul 16, 2021 18:50:27 GMT -5
I am going to go through the two Two threads and their tributaries and estuaries and compile a...something mumble mumble...so that we can...something or other mumble mumble. hmmm...correction, no, apparently according to google I am going to compile their tributaries and DIStributaries in the hopes this all leads to some kind of estuary. Thank you Matrix for the cosmic yolk.
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Post by Roshan on Jul 16, 2021 19:06:06 GMT -5
I am temporarily locking this thread so we all have some time and tide. I'll reopen it in one week. That's Friday, July 23, 8:06 pm NYC tide. See you then.
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