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Post by Roshan on Mar 22, 2020 10:40:00 GMT -5
Sam Vaknin, what a pip. To quote myself:
Vaknin is a diagnosed narcissist with sociopathic tendencies and a huge IQ, a polymath who served time in prison for securities fraud in his 30s and then cashed in on his diagnosis by virtually colonizing the online psych community early on. He's still a huge fraud. And not.
As far as I can see, he pretty much broke ground and invented online psychology as a serious non-serious field with his book, Malignant Self-Love: Narcissism Revisited, in 1999 and his creating communities for narcissists, and especially for their girlfriends, to talk about their problems. It seems what he did was package and push through his own diagnosis as a narcissist and his own traits to redefine what normally goes under antisocial (sociopathic, psychopathic) as the end of a spectrum of narcissism. But actually the term 'malignant narcissism' goes back to Kernberg (1968) and you will find no mention of Vaknin in say the wiki article on it. But this man, who's been a physicist, a financier, a political consultant, a prisoner, you name it, he's done it...he's managed to get taken 'seriously' as a worldwide psychology expert and even get, you know, a psychology visiting professorship in an oblast here and there. I remember before youtube and Facebook took over, and before algorithms and net neutrality changed...he had FLOODED the search engines. If you looked up narcissism you just got tons and tons of Vaknin.
I mean this is a person who claims on one of his videos that he invented the term "narcissistic supplies', which goes back to Fenichel of Freud's circle in 1938. And he claims interest in narcissism had greatly waned in the psychological community until he came along and it's just not true. At the same time he ALSO says really insightful brilliant things about narcissism and...well about anything really. And will talk and talk about 'anything'with 'authority'. This is a particularly priceless example though he has plenty of doozies.
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Post by Roshan on Mar 22, 2020 10:52:55 GMT -5
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Post by Roshan on Mar 22, 2020 11:02:32 GMT -5
He's a doctor because he has a PhD in physics from 1982. He's not a psychologist. Not remotely. But...he's been MANY things. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_VakninI am trying to find things he's claimed about his childhood that I thought would be in wiki and aren't. I will prevail. |
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Post by Roshan on Mar 22, 2020 11:44:49 GMT -5
TeNi creative subtype?
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Post by Roshan on Mar 22, 2020 12:04:13 GMT -5
He seems pretty obviously sp/sx midstream.
His heart fix seems glaringly and excruciatingly 3w4.
His head seems 7w8 at 5.
His gut seems 8 at 5. If he were an 8 his head could be 5w6.
But I think he may actually be One-fixed. Counterpassion One. And in the end when he talks about sin, this strengthens my belief.
I concede that beyond the stacking and the heart it's up for grabs.
atm I'll throw out sp/sx 7w8(8w9)-3w4(4w5)-1wX
Design for Living Dangerously and something keeps pulling him back to society. He is ultimately more self-flagellating than really malignant though he certainly does like to play fast and loose with the truth. But seems Seven 'stories' > 3 deceit. More "Opportunistic Idealism", "Charlatanism" than "Success Through Appearances". He seems to love the thrill of risk and the spinning of yarns.
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Post by Roshan on Mar 22, 2020 12:17:23 GMT -5
For the sake of full disclosure someone else years ago pegged him as a 7w8 (with nothing else added to it). This resonated a lot at the time and I may be stuck back there. It's open season on Sam.  |
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Post by Roshan on Mar 26, 2020 10:35:41 GMT -5
Hi, guys, I know there are several topics up that we haven't 'finished' yet (haven't reached a good hypothesis on) and that's in part due to the quarantine-- vincent 's sketchy Internet connection in France; our suddenly either over-crowded hence chaotic, or more conspicuously over-isolated, hence sluggish home life; general feeling of the global torpor; etc. But can we do Sam's c.t. when possible? He just released another video and I've only watched the beginning. Am about to watch the rest. Like I said I think he's TeNi, creative subtype (Ni) but this one starts with very heavy dose of Te (I think--with somewhat selective Ti unignoring). Watching the rest now. Would appreciate input. Thanks. |
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Post by Roshan on Mar 26, 2020 10:59:53 GMT -5
I am honestly unsure where Te 'ends' and Ti 'begins' especially when it comes to things like math. (Quotation marks mean I understand, or I should say perhaps I insist  , they don't actually begin and end.) |
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Post by Roshan on Mar 26, 2020 11:44:34 GMT -5
I'll make this observation about Sam's analysis of the spread of the pandemic:
In order to debunk the conclusions of the 'medical experts', he assumes as true assertions of theirs to which my immediate response is "How do they even know that?"
That said, I'm one of the people who suffers from innumeracy. But I'm also one of the people who knows that when you're asked what is 2 to the exponenth power in situations like this, where the exponent is a relatively modest number like 30 (120 days divided by 4), the answer is going to be an astronomical number, mind-boggling, well beyond a paltry million. I cannot tell you where I learned this, or how or why. I cannot give a single fact around it. It's just a pattern I picked up somewhere and put on the back burner without realizing it, fuzzy and stewing a low low flame, for such a rainy day.
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Post by Roshan on Mar 26, 2020 11:52:45 GMT -5
From this I extrapolate that he is in fact TeNi and absolutely values throwing his weight around (Se) to such an extent that he is still ignoring considerable Ti. As well as cherry-picking from and futzing with the archive--Si polr.
I think.
I mean I'm sure I cherry-pick and futz with way more than he does but like I said I suffer from innumeracy. I also suffer from very poor factoid retention. I should feel like a simpleton in comparison to him here but it's not quite the case.
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Post by vincent on Mar 26, 2020 17:22:44 GMT -5
just a few seconds in, watching the last video you posted, and i already think you're right.
"i will forever be the author of"
demonstration of Ne 6th authorship.
"so there you have it (pause) take it or leave it"
Fi inf / Fe role social bravado
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Post by vincent on Mar 26, 2020 17:26:10 GMT -5
the (quite rigid) way he look at the camera and adress an imaginary "you", ideal listener, asking him rhetorical questions also points Te dom/Fe 8th so does energy, hand gestures and body language in general.
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Post by Roshan on Mar 26, 2020 17:27:44 GMT -5
just a few seconds in, watching the last video you posted, and i already think you're right. "i will forever be the author of" demonstration of Ne 6th authorship. "so there you have it (pause) take it or leave it" Fi inf / Fe role social bravado Okay but that's not usual for him. It's a dramatic statement. He's aging and looking at the pandemonium of this global lockdown and making a philosophical statement about the insignificance of our lives. I could see myself or several other types doing that vincent . (EDIT: Not true. It's been usual for him for a while at least. But it's also true that since the pandemic there's something different about him. More gravitas. |
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Post by Roshan on Mar 26, 2020 17:30:17 GMT -5
What I do see in this opening that builds throughout, though, is that he is Fi-seeking. Not Fi agenda. Seeking. (Other possibilities being Fe polr ones I thought vincent). He has made this youtube series and become a lay psychologist in order to find intense feelings. |
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Post by vincent on Mar 26, 2020 17:34:24 GMT -5
Right.
But would you introduce a video, even to make that kind of statement, in this specific way ?
If he isn't TeNi (and probably Ni subtype indeed), he is gonna be NiTe.
And the most visible difference between the two will be in absolute vs relative value of slots, and interfacing style.
The very organic way he adress his imaginary listener, answering in advance possible reactions and objections (things like "yes, there is actually catastrophy theories" or "you all yell in unisson") points toward absolute value Te and interfacing dominance, imo.
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, they don't actually begin and end.)
