Post by jastyne on Jan 23, 2021 21:02:07 GMT -5
I feel like this is one of those cases where I could go back and forth with reasons for 2 vs. 7 ad infinitum and just end up confusing myself, so I'm tentatively planting my feet at 2 on what's basically an intangible:
She 'looks' more like a 2.
Perhaps 'seems like' is a better way of putting it, but I keep seeing traces of Lana Del Rey, my 2w1 aunt, Martha Stewart and other 2s in her face... my guess is I'm picking up a combination of physical appearance and mannerisms/ countenance, but there's a way in which people 'remind me' of other people that tends to point pretty reliably to typological similarities of some sort, so I'm going with it for now
I also agree it's SP first-- SP/sx most likely. She talks about her concern with money/ resources in a lot of interviews, and even explicitly said that's why she became Jagger's consort-- she hadn't been making any money, and it gave her privilege and position. Her husband even mentioned how she'd gotten very strange and obsessive about money in their brief time together. I also thought it was interesting, when she discussed her time as an addict, that she wasn't surprised that people took care of her or were good to her. From my understanding, the deep, underlying belief that they cannot depend on anyone and will not be taken care of is a pretty significant component of the 7 structure.
She does seem to change her story a lot, but i think it's less the 7 rationalizing/ reframing in order to keep moving forward without hindrance or shame, and seems more *image*-driven-- like she's almost moving the center of gravity of her stories and perspective to suit the image she's currently trying to present/ best match the person/ context she's speaking to?
I think that type 7 has a playfulness/ wonder component, but is more like a bratty pixie than an exposed child that makes you want to pick it up and care for it, whereas 2, esp. sp 2, has more of that... wide-eyed, 'who, me?' innocence/helplessness endearing and... presented guilelessness, perhaps? I think I see more of the latter with Marianne.
[Roshan , I remember the interview where she said they told her what to wear, how to stand, how to sing, all of that... the perspective does seem to shift in such a way where maybe it's not technically a different story, but the impression presented certainly does seem to shift]
Her 7 definitely feels very, very strong and very notable, but I'm thinking 2 has the lead.
She 'looks' more like a 2.
Perhaps 'seems like' is a better way of putting it, but I keep seeing traces of Lana Del Rey, my 2w1 aunt, Martha Stewart and other 2s in her face... my guess is I'm picking up a combination of physical appearance and mannerisms/ countenance, but there's a way in which people 'remind me' of other people that tends to point pretty reliably to typological similarities of some sort, so I'm going with it for now
I also agree it's SP first-- SP/sx most likely. She talks about her concern with money/ resources in a lot of interviews, and even explicitly said that's why she became Jagger's consort-- she hadn't been making any money, and it gave her privilege and position. Her husband even mentioned how she'd gotten very strange and obsessive about money in their brief time together. I also thought it was interesting, when she discussed her time as an addict, that she wasn't surprised that people took care of her or were good to her. From my understanding, the deep, underlying belief that they cannot depend on anyone and will not be taken care of is a pretty significant component of the 7 structure.
She does seem to change her story a lot, but i think it's less the 7 rationalizing/ reframing in order to keep moving forward without hindrance or shame, and seems more *image*-driven-- like she's almost moving the center of gravity of her stories and perspective to suit the image she's currently trying to present/ best match the person/ context she's speaking to?
I think that type 7 has a playfulness/ wonder component, but is more like a bratty pixie than an exposed child that makes you want to pick it up and care for it, whereas 2, esp. sp 2, has more of that... wide-eyed, 'who, me?' innocence/helplessness endearing and... presented guilelessness, perhaps? I think I see more of the latter with Marianne.
[Roshan , I remember the interview where she said they told her what to wear, how to stand, how to sing, all of that... the perspective does seem to shift in such a way where maybe it's not technically a different story, but the impression presented certainly does seem to shift]
Her 7 definitely feels very, very strong and very notable, but I'm thinking 2 has the lead.