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Post by Roshan on Jan 20, 2021 1:12:53 GMT -5
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Post by Roshan on Jan 20, 2021 1:23:53 GMT -5
Ugh, can't edit poll. Obviously last choice is so/sp. Make sure you choose one lead type AND one instinct!
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Post by Roshan on Jan 21, 2021 4:49:10 GMT -5
You should all be able to see the votes now, and at this time I'd normally add another picture. But before I do, I want to play a new game called "Let's Assume Everyone Who Voted Knows Something". (And they do, and they've all played Type The Tyke before).
So we have four votes for sp/sx and one for so/sp. Can we conjecture anything about the stacking range, especially given that the so/sp went with 5w6?
Also, anyone who didn't vote yet can vote on the thread but not on the poll (it's locked), and anyone who wants to change their vote can do that on the thread too.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2021 11:44:06 GMT -5
Perhaps because I've been stuck on Lauren Bacall for the last few days, this picture made me think of her signature smoldering, chin down, eyes gazing up seductively look. I had a harder time with the type but found that I was Stuck between 1 and 7, which feels odd but obviously there's the line there. When I was trying to decide between guessing 1 and 7 I heavily favored 7w8, which I almost never think for anyone, but again I think this is how you type Bacall? There's some kind of strength there which feels gutty to me.
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Post by Roshan on Jan 21, 2021 15:52:44 GMT -5
"I think this is how you type Bacall" Bacall's typing is discussed here (but the post refers to one two posts above it with a yt interview that's been removed.) This tyke's relationship to Bacall typewise should get pretty interesting but I don't want to let too much of the cat out of the bag. What I was fishing for about the stacking range was that if four out of five people said sp/sx and the fifth said so/sp (on 5w6 no less), it suggests the stacking range may well be SP/sx (which I used to indicate rather clumsily as sp/sx<---so/sp, for 'drawing on' so/sp). I now call it the 'single variant' and Typewatch's name for it, 'Ascetic', is one of the ones that seems to work. There is often like a priestly or ceremonial aspect with very heavy sp on sp/sx and it can seem pure (like One); it can also be very removed (like 5w6 and 1w9). What's interesting is that the Tyke seems to me to be midstream in this photo and if anything headed for the 'decadent' side (double variant sp/SX). BUT I'm almost positive she IS in fact SP/sx Ascetic. Anyway I'll just put up a couple more photos for now.
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Post by Roshan on Jan 21, 2021 16:12:17 GMT -5
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Post by Roshan on Jan 21, 2021 16:14:11 GMT -5
Any new votes? Changes? Comments?
I'll put one older one tomorrow and then do the reveal.
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Post by Roshan on Jan 21, 2021 16:28:29 GMT -5
I'm often juggling multiple evolving for lack of a better word plans. TTT did start like a game but turned out to be a good tool to become a better typer. So one of the issues that arises in typing a lot is how to balance out sticking to your guns with taking other people's perspectives into account. And I really do think this Tyke is a very good example of SP/sx Ascetic range, which is why I wanted to point out that the 'outlier' so/sp 5w6 isn't really such an outlier, SP/sx (sp/sx drawing on so/sp) being the most 'Fivish" stacking range.
So now that everyone knows what I think the stacking range is and now that there are more photos, any new votes or changes?
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Post by vincent on Jan 21, 2021 16:40:12 GMT -5
Without the outlier votes, i would have definitely guessed the range wrong from the first picture. If anything i would have guessed sp/SX.
That being said, i think i'll keep my vote for now.
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Post by anthony on Jan 21, 2021 17:18:45 GMT -5
It was I who guessed so/SP 5w6. It was an arbitrary guess between so/SP 5w6 and SP/sx 1w9. I went with so/SP 5w6 because the child in the original photo looks extremely head-centered and 5ish. She looks like if TS Eliot as a child were a girl.
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Post by Roshan on Jan 22, 2021 13:13:00 GMT -5
the child in the original photo looks extremely head-centered and 5ish. She looks like if TS Eliot as a child were a girl. Maybe. I don't know how head-centered she looks and it's hard for me to be objective about it atm since this is a very unusual person who presents several typing problems. Did the two people who chose the 6/7 line, vincent and Amy , think she looked so head-centered in the first photo? Did they perhaps waiver between 6/7 and some non-head type lead? But whatever else she looks there, the child in the original photo also looks extremely sexual, to the level of a Nabokov "Lolita" and I totally agree with vincent that from that photo alone, and without anthony 's 'outlier' vote, I would have assumed sp/SX. Or perhaps sx/sp of some range--which explains part of @cardia 's observation of similarities with Lauren Bacall. That ten year old tyke has a reflexive 'come hither' look far beyond her years especially considering it was decades ago; the word that comes to mind is 'beguiling'. So much so that I'm curious if anyone was 'tempted' to choose Two as main type or thinks it's the image fix.
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Post by vincent on Jan 22, 2021 14:53:06 GMT -5
It was I who guessed so/SP 5w6. It was an arbitrary guess between so/SP 5w6 and SP/sx 1w9. I went with so/SP 5w6 because the child in the original photo looks extremely head-centered and 5ish. She looks like if TS Eliot as a child were a girl.
Head-centered maybe. Extremely i don't know...
I really can't say i see the similarity with Eliot here. nor 5w6. Actually, she doesn't really remind me of anyone we typed before, which in itself is quite a typing clue already.
The only one that came to mind was Sylvia Plath actually. And even then, that kid does not remind me of Sylvia Plath at the same age. She reminds me of adult Sylvia Plath.
Which is probably another typing clue. And one of the reason i went for 7.
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Post by vincent on Jan 22, 2021 14:59:17 GMT -5
Maybe. I don't know how head-centered she looks and it's hard for me to be objective about it atm since this is a very unusual person who presents several typing problems. Did the two people who chose the 6/7 line, vincent and Amy , think she looked so head-centered in the first photo? Did they perhaps waiver between 6/7 and some non-head type lead? But whatever else she looks there, the child in the original photo also looks extremely sexual, to the level of a Nabokov "Lolita" and I totally agree with vincent that from that photo alone, and without anthony 's 'outlier' vote, I would have assumed sp/SX. Or perhaps sx/sp of some range--which explains part of @cardia 's observation of similarities with Lauren Bacall. That ten year old tyke has a reflexive 'come hither' look far beyond her years especially considering it was decades ago; the word that comes to mind is 'beguiling'. So much so that I'm curious if anyone was 'tempted' to choose Two as main type or thinks it's the image fix.
Yes, she is extremely sexual indeed. I did consider sx 2 "seduction and agression" lead, with sx/sp i.v. Briefly. But decided against it because the stacking didn't seem quite right.
But i still strongly suspect she is 2 fixed.
Like @cardia i considered 7w8 too at some point.
Ct wise, there is a lot of Pe (Se/Ne) there. Which correlates rather well with the 7/8 space.
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Post by Roshan on Jan 22, 2021 15:16:40 GMT -5
Okay, here's a couple of teenage/young adult ones. If you think you recognize her don't say who it is and just pm me to make sure you're right. Teenage/young adult #1
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Post by Roshan on Jan 22, 2021 15:18:06 GMT -5
Teenage/young adult #2
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