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Post by Roshan on Feb 22, 2020 15:43:10 GMT -5
So in the video and in the tweet, he's addressing/referring to supporters of people like Sam Seder, the progressive lite youtuber I too particularly love to hate.  MT's been involved in ongoing Twitter and youtube disputes with them and now he's had it. I would have edited the tweet to something like this.
Russiagate and its many toxic offshoots has been a toxic poison stew of propaganda, misdirection, and lies from the very beginning. It’s like an infectious disease that is constantly spreading into new body parts. I have zero patience for anyone of the usual suspects who still validates this garbage. (I decided when you fix the other two errors close by and take out 'many', "Russiagate and its toxic offshoots" can stand as an aggregate singular subject.  ). |
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Post by Roshan on Feb 22, 2020 16:02:55 GMT -5
Grammar aside (and again, after years of doing this, an NiTe jorno would proofread), I still think letting "anyone" be just anyone speaks to type.
I suppose it's in part because of Fe polr that I'm always thinking about who my likely audience will be when I write posts about politics. I'm so aware I put people off I kind of do preemptive damage control. You can also say that's 'phobic Fe'. But it isn't only the Fe. It's that I'm trying to do something with political posts--convince as many while alienating as few as possible. I want my faction to grow, my candidate to win, my idea to catch on.
The 'doing something' is the Te tool. And in a case like this where I decided it was time to alienate a whole bunch of obnoxious readers, I still wouldn't use "anyone" unqualified like that. Because anyone is anyone in the world of T. What if you're a brand new reader and I could win you over but I drove you away by insulting you? Again, this probably sounds nitpicky but I think it's the way NiTe operates in these kinds of situations, with the tool, applied logic, being used to IMPLEMENT an ethical agenda in politics.
Not express. Not fight. Implement.
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Post by vincent on Feb 22, 2020 16:16:15 GMT -5
Grammar aside (and again, after years of doing this, an NiTe jorno would proofread), I still think letting "anyone" be just anyone speaks to type. I suppose it's in part because of Fe polr that I'm always thinking about who my likely audience will be when I write posts about politics. I'm so aware I put people off I kind of do preemptive damage control. You can also say that's 'phobic Fe'. But it isn't only the Fe. It's that I'm trying to do something with political posts--convince as many while alienating as few as possible. I want my faction to grow, my candidate to win, my idea to catch on. The 'doing something' is the Te tool. And in a case like this where I decided it was time to alienate a whole bunch of obnoxious readers, I still wouldn't use "anyone" unqualified like that. Because anyone is anyone in the world of T. What if you're a brand new reader and I could win you over but I drove you away by insulting you? Again, this probably sounds nitpicky but I think it's the way NiTe operates in these kinds of situations, with the tool, applied logic, being used to IMPLEMENT an ethical agenda in politics. Not express. Not fight. Implement.
I entirely agree with this.
This might seem like a detail, but that detail is very revelatory of the crucial difference between FiSe and NiTe auxiliary functions and general process.
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Post by Roshan on Feb 22, 2020 16:16:37 GMT -5
Also, Michael Tracey thinks now the lines are drawn. (Ne polr).
For me, the lines are never drawn, the sands are always shifting.
Like Sotha Sil, tomorrow is always another (AND THE SAME) day.
Like the tides. (Ni frame).
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Post by Roshan on Feb 22, 2020 16:18:43 GMT -5
This might seem like a detail
Yeah, it's a detail for pretty much everyone but us. That's why we're the strategic 'trouble shooters'. |
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Post by vincent on Feb 22, 2020 16:20:25 GMT -5
Btw, this difference is why NiTe and FiSe are activity partners for each others
edit for clarification : similar worldviews and values, a common language, compatible projects and goals, but different priority and methods.
As a result one will oversee what the other could overlook, in a relatively balanced way (unless health and development becomes important factors).
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Post by Roshan on Feb 22, 2020 16:37:19 GMT -5
Btw, this difference is why NiTe and FiSe are activity partners for each others Riiiight...they supply the other's tool. So Alejandra had the Se to just dive in and put her apartment on Air B&B and tell me she'd stay with me and pay me a percentage when she had guests. But I had the detail orientation to notice a whole bunch of things she didn't that would enhance her apartment for tourists. Which was a bit odd, because she is far higher in sp, but not when it was about implementing an extra-personal agenda. She Fe-ignored. She assumed her 'gemütlich' little boho apartment with the gorgeous view of the park and the stately (way) uptown architecture would just be endearing to everyone. I had to explain they are just as likely to be real tourists as 'travelers' because hotel costs are prohibitive, so would you put your memorabilia in a drawer, and there's no room in this closet, would you buy them a damn twenty dollar coat rack? Most odd indeed. Suddenly I was the sp consultant for tourists. But I also think this speaks to the difference between Si demonstrative and Si role. Over and over, role seems to be related to something sort of 'professional' while demonstrative is more 'behavioral'. (Though I can't really see how Alejandra had Ti role...  ). |
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Post by Roshan on Feb 22, 2020 16:40:09 GMT -5
Whereas Michael Tracey's Ti role is so overbearing it impedes his Te-seeking.
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Post by Roshan on Feb 23, 2020 19:49:41 GMT -5
I just posted this on Facebook in honor of Sanders' landslide victory in Nevada (and recognition of how my relationship to it changed over four years). And I realized SHE must be one of the "Pucockie/Alejandra" FiSe's.
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Post by vincent on Feb 25, 2020 14:04:22 GMT -5
I saw her typed as INFP a few times online, but there is no way in hell she is Se polr.
FiSe is certainly right.
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Post by Roshan on Feb 25, 2020 14:19:14 GMT -5
I saw her typed as INFP a few times online, but there is no way in hell she is Se polr. FiSe is certainly right. That whole song is Ne polr. |
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Post by vincent on Feb 25, 2020 14:30:27 GMT -5
I saw her typed as INFP a few times online, but there is no way in hell she is Se polr. FiSe is certainly right. That whole song is Ne polr.
Yes indeed |
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Post by Roshan on May 23, 2020 18:12:31 GMT -5
@12'27" to 14'40"
Michael has cabin fever and also got even more ornery over the vote/don't vote blue wars. So I think this section captures his use of "Se tool" to get from his personal values (Fi) to his understanding of the course of events (Ni) in a particularly colorful way. Biden has a rape accuser and Tracey's been critical of her (as he was also critical of Christine Blasey Ford, the muddled Joan of Arc of liberals, in her accusations against SCOTUS nominee Kavanaugh. I tend to agree with him--though there's a comment refuting his claim as to why the lawyer dropped Tara Reade).
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Post by Roshan on May 23, 2020 18:32:41 GMT -5
His choice of words'--he doesn't care, he's put up a shield to not allow [his audience's responses] to impinge upon what he chooses to train his attention on... so if they want someone who's a stooge of their audience, wonderful. That's what most people want in life and he doesn't blame them, it's easier--but those aren't his inclinations and he's not gonna do it. And if they can't get it through their thick skulls that he doesn't care if they vote for Biden, go play a video game, he doesn't care anymore. vincent said his career choice was very counterphobic polr ; he's also a very 'countersloth 9!". This is classic. 9 with 6 starting to integrate high Six...the projection out of his anger at his 'inclinations' is...it's cute. |
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Post by Roshan on May 23, 2020 18:39:43 GMT -5
Actually most countersloth Nines are far more counter physical than mental sloth. This is what makes him unusual and it has to do with his complete Enneagram typing.
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MT's been involved in ongoing Twitter and youtube disputes with them and now he's had it. 
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