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Post by Roshan on Feb 22, 2020 10:32:45 GMT -5
I see his Se as much more visible, visceral and organic when in dialogue with a specific person who's 'on his side' and at his level of intelligence and expertise, without time pressure. He does NOT seem Se seeking at all. I saw Te really amped up under time constraints and with someone who was an 'iffy' ally (Tucker Carlson), because there really was something immediate 'to do'. I now also see his slouchy lackadaisical manner in his live streams to 'no one in particular' as a kind of power move, like soaking people in by seeming more on the 'prey' side. Kind of like a Venus fly trap. You would think it's more in danger of being eaten than of eating but no. vincent
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Post by Roshan on Feb 22, 2020 10:34:42 GMT -5
Se is a tool for him and he is quite flexible about how he uses it.
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Post by Roshan on Feb 22, 2020 10:35:58 GMT -5
We were talking recently about how Se doesn't show a middle ground. It's either yang or yin.
Well, with Tucker Carlson Michael managed to find the neutral. Because it's tool not frame.
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Post by Roshan on Feb 22, 2020 10:39:47 GMT -5
he seems to have an "ideating mode" in livestreams, where he is articulating his Fi judgement, and fighting against the mud to collapse his Ni.
And a very different "interfacing mode" where he is exposing already judged and already collapsed ideas.
Posts crossed. Yeah, that too, but it's also a choice he makes. To just do live streams and expose this muddle. Like showing his throat but it also serves as camouflage.
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Post by Roshan on Feb 22, 2020 10:43:30 GMT -5
It serves as camouflage, like if Tucker Carlson had decided to attack him for his radical views, he would NOT know what he was getting into by just having watched Michael's live streams.
And I think Michael also wants to show 'the real me' to his youtube followers on the chat (Fi frame).
While not revealing the extent of his power to his 'enemies'.
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Post by vincent on Feb 22, 2020 10:48:41 GMT -5
Yes, i agree. His Se is very adaptative, very balanced, and covers a lot of the function spectrum. "The right tool for the right job". He doesn't even have to be a jumper, based on this. He is definetely FiSe. A FiSe who made the choice to tackle challenging issues and problems. Not just in general, but for him, specifically. I mean, it require quite a lot of counterphobia for Ne polr to specialize in anti-propagandism.
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Post by vincent on Feb 22, 2020 10:49:29 GMT -5
It serves as camouflage, like if Tucker Carlson had decided to attack him for his radical views, he would NOT know what he was getting into by just having watched Michael's live streams. And I think Michael also wants to show 'the real me' to his youtube followers on the chat (Fi frame). While not revealing the extent of his power to his 'enemies'.
Yes, i agree.
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Post by Roshan on Feb 22, 2020 11:01:19 GMT -5
vincent , those whole body movements practically don't stop with Aaron Mate, and we even get hardy belly laughs. Is he even a 'jumper' or does he just wield Se with a very wide range? His older written work is very aggressive, his live streams are so 'muddy' that quicksand comes to mind. But yeah, I guess that's something an FiNi jumper might do...the quicksand may be more of a result of his base metabolism wanting to be 'Fi authentic' and to 'Ni ramble' when there's no specific person there.
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Post by Roshan on Feb 22, 2020 11:02:38 GMT -5
lol posts crossed again.
He may not be a jumper but he's surely FiSe.
At times with Mate he almost seems more SeTi or even SeFi.
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Post by Roshan on Feb 22, 2020 11:04:06 GMT -5
But of course there's no way in hell he's Ti polr and he's as gamma dour as it gets.
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Post by Roshan on Feb 22, 2020 11:07:40 GMT -5
I mean, it require quite a lot of counterphobia for Ne polr to specialize in anti-propagandism. Right. And choosing live streams while becoming quicksand in them shows both the counter and the phobia.
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Post by Roshan on Feb 22, 2020 11:09:15 GMT -5
I'm gonna say not a jumper and the unusual issue here is counterphobic Ne polr.
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Post by Roshan on Feb 22, 2020 11:12:17 GMT -5
And speaking of phobias time to clean!
ttyl
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Post by vincent on Feb 22, 2020 11:14:06 GMT -5
Yeah, in the last video he sometimes sounds like a SeTI with Fi or a SeFi with Ti.
You could also get this impression with a FiNi jumper, but not in the same context. A jumper would show a quite subdued Se as baseline metabolism. Would go full Ni mode in comfort zone and among friends. And would push his Se and Te quite hard and forward when "thinking out loud" in quicksand territory.
And then it would feel a lot less organic.
That's what we were seeing with Paglia. she looks Te dom-ish in "ideating mode". And markedly more SiFi otherwise.
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Post by Roshan on Feb 22, 2020 12:52:38 GMT -5
vincent , I was listening to this brand new live stream of MT's while I was cleaning and it clarifies a lot of what he meant by who 'still validates' this Russiagate disease and why he has 'zero patience' with them. Comments to follow in a while. (Still cleaning... )
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