anthony
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Post by anthony on Jun 2, 2021 16:37:18 GMT -5
I always go to younger materials when I'm dealing with much older people before I try typing them and I have done the image search before. It's just that only once I got it through my thick skull that he's a 9, I started to realize just how...removed, awkward, and diffident...a lot of those photos are...This is basically the commonality I was seeing between Burrows and the other guy I said he reminded me of.
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Post by Roshan on Jun 2, 2021 16:46:17 GMT -5
Well, maybe if you're talking about his wife...There's nothing like that photo of Burrows there, anthony. But if you used keyword young for that guy you'd find him with different expressions.
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Post by Roshan on Jun 2, 2021 16:53:14 GMT -5
I always go to younger materials when I'm dealing with much older people before I try typing them and I have done the image search before. It's just that only once I got it through my thick skull that he's a 9, I started to realize just how...removed, awkward, and diffident...a lot of those photos are...This is basically the commonality I was seeing between Burrows and the other guy I said he reminded me of. The problem is the image search you gave shows that guy like that all the time. Burrows wasn't like that all the time in those young photos. It's just not enough to say they're both probably sp/so 963. Also, Burrows isn't removed and diffident in that family photo, though he may seem somewhat awkward. Did you really see something like that in that guy's image search anthony ? What?
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Post by Roshan on Jun 2, 2021 16:57:14 GMT -5
Okay, so... there are three interviews total (two on and one off camera, two older, one young), two performances (one older, one young), an image search and a fairly long discussion on this thread now. He is synflow. He is not sx first or single variant (SO/sx or SP/so). He leads with 9w1 8w9 and his fixes are 3w2 4w3 and 6w7 5w6, in some order. He's had strong development of his secondary wing with time and movement of stacks. He seems overall higher sx and less Oneish now than when he was young. Everybody should look at the materials and if you agree, like this post. If you don't, say what you don't agree with and why, okay? Let's give it about a week for everyone to check out all the materials.If you're done before and want to talk about it fine. If you have more materials fine too, etc. But the base materials are up to this post. Amy , anthony , jastyne , vincent , winter and anyone else who wants to jump in. (EDIT: Amy ? Amy It's either 'like' or say what you disagree with).
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anthony
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Post by anthony on Jun 2, 2021 18:19:20 GMT -5
This is basically the commonality I was seeing between Burrows and the other guy I said he reminded me of. The problem is the image search you gave shows that guy like that all the time. Burrows wasn't like that all the time in those young photos. It's just not enough to say they're both probably sp/so 963. Also, Burrows isn't removed and diffident in that family photo, though he may seem somewhat awkward. Did you really see something like that in that guy's image search anthony ? What? Yeah, I really did. I still do. I didn't say they looked like twins, or that they were exactly the same. David Schwimmer is someone I barely know—he played a character in the sitcom "Friends" that I see my mom watching all the time. He's not a multiple one hit wonder musician. But Burrows shared enough energetic signals to him for me to be immediately reminded of him while looking at the material on this thread, so I posted the google image search to "throw it out there." They're both 9w1(8w9)ishly soft, and they both look similarly diffident and awkward in quite a few of their photos. They're not exactly the same though, and I didn't mean to imply that. As I type this I'm sitting here with both of their google image search results side-by-side, Tony's with the keyword "young," and comparing them. In MOST of the photos they're certainly different, but with respect to some of the stuff on this thread, like the family photo, they reminded me of one another.
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Post by jastyne on Jun 3, 2021 2:57:14 GMT -5
in this first video, at 2'56'' "i was trying to split myself in so many different directions, but i was not complaining". That sounds nine-ish, especially with So 9 "participation".
But "trying to" sounds tree-ish...
Social 9w1 checking in here to just say that, for the record, I actually try very, very hard. Mostly in trying to figure out what the right way to try is and how to do so, and far more often than not incredibly inefficiently and without much external process, to my own despair. However, I will also do everything in my power to avoid saying it or drawing what feels like unnecessary attention to the fact though, because saying or showing I'm trying is something I take very, very seriously and will avoid unless I'm in very serious distress... so I guess it depends on which aspect you were highlighting as being un-Nine-ish!
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Post by jastyne on Jun 3, 2021 3:19:55 GMT -5
Okay, so... there are three interviews total (two on and one off camera, two older, one young), two performances (one older, one young), an image search and a fairly long discussion on this thread now. He is synflow. He is not sx first or single variant (SO/sx or SP/so). He leads with 9w1 8w9 and his fixes are 3w2 4w3 and 6w7 5w6, in some order. He's had strong development of his secondary wing with time and movement of stacks. He seems overall higher sx and less Oneish now than when he was young. Everybody should look at the materials and if you agree, like this post. If you don't, say what you don't agree with and why, okay? Let's give it about a week for everyone to check out all the materials. If you're done before and want to talk about it fine. If you have more materials fine too, etc. But the base materials are up to this post. ________________________________________________________
I was delighted as I progressed with this thread and saw my own impressions articulated by others-- GO TEAM!! My desire to be one with the universe and everything in it in such a way that I feel like the whole universe moves to match *me*//what's true is pleased Roshan , I lean quite strongly towards sp/SO for his instincts. I see no actual Charisma. I think having strong Social instinct second makes his 3 louder, as does having 3 in its 'power place' of the social instinct, which I think is why his mannerisms can be so exceptionally screaming to the point that they seem ambiguous if you pay too much attention to his offerent words and mannerisms... but he's not quite polished or intentional enough-- when you look at him when he's singing, he doesn't have that sense that most core image types display where there's a more constantly embodied sense that they're very aware of the gaze of the proverbial viewer, and turning it on (whatever their full type's idea of 'it' may be) and giving people something to look at. TB is just... seems like he's actually forgetting that he's in front of people, happily enjoying his own personal cloud instead of actually being present and embodied where he actually is. I feel strongly that 9w1 (8w9) is correct for core, and 3w2(4w3) feels correct-- would be surprised if it turns out not to be. Head is the fix I'm last clear on-- I also considered 7, and can't say I've 100% ruled it out at this point, but I think I'm likely feeling the 'spin' of triple attachment-- I also, oddly, briefly wondered 6w5, or 6w7 (8w7). But I think it's perfectly plausible that his sp/SO stacking is giving him that more solid, brute-force 8-ish feel, and that 6w7(5w6) is correct. Being on a team where everyone can and does actually contribute is a genuine joy. Thanks for inviting me to participate!
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Post by Roshan on Jun 3, 2021 7:50:52 GMT -5
jastyne , after I wrote the last big post, I realized I was pretty much settled on sp/SO. Then I realized, if he's sp first, why not 7 head.. ...and then, why not just sp/so.... that wallpaper... (and then, again, why not image last...) I did say he's not charming enough for 379 in any order and that it was too much positivity especially with 3wTWO, but I really wasn't considering having a heavy sp cover... so you're not alone in thinking about 7; there's a decent chance I won't even be liking my own post.
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Post by Roshan on Jun 3, 2021 8:28:46 GMT -5
TB is just... seems like he's actually forgetting that he's in front of people, happily enjoying his own personal cloud instead of actually being present and embodied where he actually is.
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Post by Roshan on Jun 3, 2021 17:37:56 GMT -5
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Post by Roshan on Jun 7, 2021 11:17:33 GMT -5
Just a reminder to look over the materials here at least up to this post by this Wednesday, and then either like the post or say what you don't agree with. Amy , Amy Amy vincent and anyone else who wants to participate.
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Post by Roshan on Jun 11, 2021 9:49:16 GMT -5
Okay, so... there are three interviews total (two on and one off camera, two older, one young), two performances (one older, one young), an image search and a fairly long discussion on this thread now. He is synflow. √ He is not sx first or single variant (SO/sx or SP/so). √ He leads with 9w1 8w9 √ and his fixes are 3w2 4w3 √ and 6w75w6, ? in some order. He's had strong development of his secondary wing with time and movement of stacks. √ He seems overall higher sx and less Oneish now than when he was young. √ ___________________________________________________________
While he has young photos where he seems way too flat to have a 7 fix, he has others where he seems a pretty classic 'jester' type, which is remarkable considering the almost lack of affect in, say, the old radio interview. Where does this come from? Listening to his words, everything seems to be so laissez-faire; in particular he never stopped to think and he let things come, and ooh it was so much fun. And although I posted it after the 'green line', in the newspaper clip he states he doesn't want to be in one band. Why not, if he's triple attached? Why wouldn't he want something to really stick? So I'm thinking the zoned out dead pan that seems so un-Seven really may be coming from a heavy sp cover, not sp/SO but midstream sp/so more toward sp (and that this was lost when the stacks moved, which they should do anyway by his age, regardless of range, or you're in BIG trouble), and that he is 7w6 6w5 last. So, sx 7, the bubblehead. With its own kind of 'cosmic union'--things will happen according to God's plan, not mine. Now, please feel free to kill me.
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Post by vincent on Jun 11, 2021 12:03:50 GMT -5
Listening to his words, everything seems to be so laissez-faire; in particular he never stopped to think and he let things come, and ooh it was so much fun. And although I posted it after the 'green line', in the newspaper clip he states he doesn't want to be in one band. Why not, if he's triple attached? Why wouldn't he want something to really stick?
I noticed this, but i didn't realize that it was a strong argument against triple attached.
I thought he was attached to being a studio musician, working with everybody, being everywhere, incestuously merged with a "milieu".
Hmmm, right. And it really fits the Wizard of Odds gestalt too.
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Post by Roshan on Jun 11, 2021 12:15:36 GMT -5
I noticed this, but i didn't realize that it was a strong argument against triple attached.
It's not. It's just an argument.
Hmmm, right. And it really fits the Wizard of Odds gestalt too.
Well, the thing is he seems unremittingly noncommittal. And the number of times he basically says I wasn't really thinking...but I enjoy/ed it!...
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Post by Roshan on Jun 11, 2021 12:21:13 GMT -5
If I thought he had the higher social stacking, I would go with the 6. But that's one helluva plaster cast he has on that face oftentimes when young. Not to mention on his voice in the radio interview. And then suddenly you'll get this. How?
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