anthony
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Post by anthony on Jan 14, 2021 22:41:03 GMT -5
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Post by anthony on Jan 14, 2021 22:44:52 GMT -5
Another poem:
I may not be strong as a tree or deeply rooted as such
But still my limbs stretch far and wide and still I yearn for touch.
I may not be vast as the sea or powerful as its tide
But still I yearn for waves of such and still I’m fierce inside.
I may not be soft as a breeze or gentle in its giving
But still I yearn for grace so much and life as I am living.
I may not be deep as the night or dark as it can be
But still I yearn for its depth and somber
and still tranquility.
I may need to be bold as the moon but may not shine so bright
But still I yearn for boldness and I yearn to shine that light.
I may not be hot as the sun or the gallantry of its day
But still I yearn for warmth and grace that I can be that brave.
That I can be so bold to stand and be in my own fate
and be the giver and the taker and the mender and the break.
That I can hold in my own hands and in my heart desire
to be the tree, the moon, the sun the sea
And set the world on fire.
-M
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2021 22:57:39 GMT -5
What I wanna know is
How does everyone's mom have a blog!
Also, apparently we were all raised by 9w8(1w9)s
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hiddenglass
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Post by hiddenglass on Jan 14, 2021 23:54:07 GMT -5
What I wanna know is How does everyone's mom have a blog! Also, apparently we were all raised by 9w8(1w9)s I'm holding out for my mom's type still 👀 |
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Post by jastyne on Jan 15, 2021 2:25:01 GMT -5
Aww, Tony's mom! I wouldn't feel comfy giving any sort of solid typing at this point, but I don't see anything here that would blatantly or obviously disagree with your typing of her-- in fact, it seems extremely plausible to me  I will definitely give a strong second to both 9w8 and so/sx, with with so/SX being likely-- thanks for sharing such solid exemplar for the "database. Also @cardia I was definitely not raised by a Nine... maybe I'll try to scrounge up enough materials for a typing thread for her. But now I'm wondering how different my life would be/ how exactly I would have been affected if I was... **insert thinking emoji** |
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hiddenglass
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Post by hiddenglass on Jan 15, 2021 4:10:22 GMT -5
Inspired by hiddenglass and @cardia , I filmed a typing video with my mother and compiled some photos of her at various ages along with her poetry blog. Right now, I'm typing her as: so/SX 9w8(1w9)-6w7(7w8)-2w1(3w2), I think FeSi or SiFe creative. I feel this is very close already, except there may be a subwing, or instinct range, that needs tweaking. I think she's a high Sx 9w8.
• why darkside?? I'd much more readily see spsc than sxsp. much.
• why not the other supercore 2?
"do you actually think that I am the best mother?"
👁️👄👁️
"I've never seen anything like it in my lifetime, I don't think anyone has, in this lifetime."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act
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anthony
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Post by anthony on Jan 15, 2021 4:53:17 GMT -5
Inspired by hiddenglass and @cardia , I filmed a typing video with my mother and compiled some photos of her at various ages along with her poetry blog. Right now, I'm typing her as: so/SX 9w8(1w9)-6w7(7w8)-2w1(3w2), I think FeSi or SiFe creative. I feel this is very close already, except there may be a subwing, or instinct range, that needs tweaking. I think she's a high Sx 9w8.
• why darkside?? I'd much more readily see spsc than sxsp. much.
• why not the other supercore 2
Me too. I'd much more readily see sp/SO than I would sx/sp. The issue is that I think her second fix is a very strong second, almost enough to pass her as a 6w7, and she seems high Sx to me(especially when she was younger). I think the stacking could very well be sp/SO, but what I haven't seen from her is an Sp-wall(she's grounded but quite penetrable), and she writes things like
"... That I can hold in my own hands and in my heart desire to be the tree, the moon, the sun the sea And set the world on fire. " I initially had her as 2w3(1w2) last. It could still very well be that. I don't have a strong argument for why not. But, in my experience with her, she doesn't seem to understand the 3 space(and it's struggles) particularly well at all, and her entire image, her pride, seems to be fundamentally centered in her personal principles and measured by that philosophical/idealistic framework than it is making herself available for the consumption of others(in a VAIN way). |
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Post by hiddenglass on Jan 15, 2021 4:59:28 GMT -5
>scSX 9w81w9 6w77w8 2w13w2
• why darkside?? I'd much more readily see spsc than sxsp. much.
• why not the other supercore 2
Me too. I'd much more readily see sp/SO than I would sx/sp. The issue is that I think her second fix is a very strong second, almost enough to pass her as a 6w7, and she seems high Sx to me(especially when she was younger). I think the stacking could very well be sp/SO, but what I haven't seen from her is an Sp-wall(she's grounded but quite penetrable), and she writes things like
"... That I can hold in my own hands and in my heart desire to be the tree, the moon, the sun the sea And set the world on fire. "
I also don't really type from text but I'll read some of her poems. |
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Post by Roshan on Jan 15, 2021 5:50:29 GMT -5
sp/SO 9w8(8w7)-6w7(7w8)-2w3(1w2) or some such is possible. Also, why not FeNi? She seems very beta to me and I really doubt she is my conflictor or superego. I could also see SeTi if not for the poems, or even SeFi over FeSi in particular. I guess vincent will have something to say about this... |
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hiddenglass
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Post by hiddenglass on Jan 15, 2021 5:56:35 GMT -5
sp/SO 9w8(8w7)-6w7(7w8)-2w3(1w2) or some such is possible. Also, why not FeNi? She seems very beta to me and I really doubt she is my conflictor or superego. I could also see SeTi if not for the poems, or even SeFi over FeSi in particular. I guess vincent will have something to say about this...
I'm on board with this typing. |
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Post by anthony on Jan 15, 2021 6:04:58 GMT -5
sp/SO 9w8(8w7)-6w7(7w8)-2w3(1w2) or some such is possible. Also, why not FeNi? She seems very beta to me and I really doubt she is my conflictor or superego. I could also see SeTi if not for the poems, or even SeFi over FeSi in particular. I guess vincent will have something to say about this... She could very well be beta, however, I find it far easier to see her as your conflictor than I do your supervisor. She is notably Se-ish, particularly Se-hidden-agenda-ish, but I attributed this mostly to Se demonstrative -- From my perspective, I always saw her as possessing a great intuitive understanding of what it takes to 'move' and manipulate the environment around her. It seemed to me like water she swam in without knowing it(she's also notably 8ish, and I'm Se PoLR). On her blog, the saying "I'm a believer in peace and love but say fuck a lot," upon retrospect does seem more like it's coming from Se hidden agenda or something similar. In terms of family dynamics...I genuinely cannot tell whether or not she's more alpha-ish or beta-ish, it's really hard for me to say. |
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Post by anthony on Jan 15, 2021 6:10:21 GMT -5
9w8(8w7)-6w7(7w8)-2w3(1w2) sp/SO is the typing I had of her for the longest length time until about recently, after taking a closer look at her poetry and seeing some of her younger photos where her energy seemed considerably more...refined than I'd expect from an 9w8(8w7) sp/SO with those other components.
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Post by Roshan on Jan 15, 2021 6:30:13 GMT -5
She could very well be beta, however, I find it far easier to see her as your conflictor than I do your supervisor. What, I feel great just listening to her. She must be giving me either Fe or Se directly, from frame. She makes me want to go have a hootenanny.She is notably Se-ish, particularly Se-hidden-agenda-ish, but I attributed this mostly to Se demonstrative -- Se seems to me to be almost certainly absolute value upper slot, so first or third, but the poems suggest Se is something she still has to strive for so third more likely.From my perspective, I always saw her as possessing a great intuitive understanding of what it takes to 'move' and manipulate the environment around her. Which both Se frame and FeNi with developed Se will do.It seemed to me like water she swam in without knowing it(she's also notably 8ish, and I'm Se PoLR). Yes she is, she's practically an 8, and FeSi and SiFe are...not.On her blog, the saying "I'm a believer in peace and love but say fuck a lot," upon retrospect does seem more like it's coming from Se hidden agenda or something similar. In terms of family dynamics...I genuinely cannot tell whether or not she's more alpha-ish or beta-ish, it's really hard for me to say. Forget the family dynamics. Maybe her adventures are....just her. |
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Post by Roshan on Jan 15, 2021 6:35:41 GMT -5
ps anthony , right, FeSi is also Fe frame but they do not make me feel great, they creep me out energetically and I recoil. She energizes me. Which should be supervisor, semi-dual or dual... |
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Post by ahmed on Jan 15, 2021 6:57:42 GMT -5
Vibe from the videos is FeSi/SeFi (and maybe FeSe?)
There seems to be a lot of Se going on but I'm not sure about it being refined enough for frame, maybe demonstrative or agenda better.
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I will definitely give a strong second to both 9w8 and so/sx, with with so/SX being likely-- thanks for sharing such solid exemplar for the "database. 
