Amy
Hummingbird
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Post by Amy on Jan 15, 2021 12:08:09 GMT -5
The enneagram type seems right (I may have to get back to that since I’m not sure on he instinct stacking), but my first impression of her is either FeNi or SeFi for cogtype. Her poem though seems Se seeking ‘finding strength and showing presence’ and Fe frame (other than just not being Te frame instead) because it’s also about ‘shining her light’ on other people and other themes of ‘reaching out’ (‘I can be he giver and the taker...’).
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Post by vincent on Jan 15, 2021 16:13:56 GMT -5
sp/SO 9w8(8w7)-6w7(7w8)-2w3(1w2) or some such is possible. Also, why not FeNi? She seems very beta to me and I really doubt she is my conflictor or superego. I could also see SeTi if not for the poems, or even SeFi over FeSi in particular. I guess vincent will have something to say about this...
E-wise, i'm not sure yet. Still wondering what it's in the stacking and what's in the fixes and subwings.
But ct wise, i'm almost positive that FeNi is correct.
A quite SeTi-ish one indeed.
Very close to FeSe if not actually FeSe.
FeSi, even with lots of demonstrative Se, is energetically softer, lighter. Doesn't have this kind of strength, nor this kind of gravitas.
You can actually see Ni auxiliary "zoning out" in the video, several times.
And everything she says in that video, from her sense of Time to the way she just "get" English, is consistent with it too.
And her thing with grammar is probably Te role.
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Post by vincent on Jan 15, 2021 16:17:42 GMT -5
From my perspective, I always saw her as possessing a great intuitive understanding of what it takes to 'move' and manipulate the environment around her. It seemed to me like water she swam in without knowing it(she's also notably 8ish, and I'm Se PoLR).
Well, that's the thing, Se dom doesn't have an "intuitive understanding" of it.
Not really.
They either have an analytical or a visceral sense of it, depending if SeTi or SeFi.
"intuitive understanding" and "without knowing" actually points toward getting Se through Ni aux.
keep in mind that a LOT of Si polr women (both FeNi and TeNi) are under a giganormous societal pressure to appear more alpha and delta-ish than they are.
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Post by vincent on Jan 15, 2021 16:32:08 GMT -5
And btw, speaking about Beta... and fwiw, i suspect her music playlists aren't that far from (some of) mine
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anthony
Terra9Incognita
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Post by anthony on Jan 15, 2021 19:32:58 GMT -5
She could very well be beta, however, I find it far easier to see her as your conflictor than I do your supervisor. What, I feel great just listening to her. She must be giving me either Fe or Se directly, from frame. She makes me want to go have a hootenanny.She is notably Se-ish, particularly Se-hidden-agenda-ish, but I attributed this mostly to Se demonstrative -- Se seems to me to be almost certainly absolute value upper slot, so first or third, but the poems suggest Se is something she still has to strive for so third more likely.From my perspective, I always saw her as possessing a great intuitive understanding of what it takes to 'move' and manipulate the environment around her. Which both Se frame and FeNi with developed Se will do.It seemed to me like water she swam in without knowing it(she's also notably 8ish, and I'm Se PoLR). Yes she is, she's practically an 8, and FeSi and SiFe are...not.On her blog, the saying "I'm a believer in peace and love but say fuck a lot," upon retrospect does seem more like it's coming from Se hidden agenda or something similar. In terms of family dynamics...I genuinely cannot tell whether or not she's more alpha-ish or beta-ish, it's really hard for me to say. Forget the family dynamics. Maybe her adventures are....just her.Very interesting. She energizes me too, in many ways. I didn't imagine that you and her would actually conflict as much as you would be...uninterested in one another. But then there are certain times where I realize I don't know my mother as well I as thought, and upon retrospect you two would probably enjoy each other's presence. I think Se third works better than Se dominant. If she were actually FeSi, she probably would react quite negatively to "aggression" and power-maneuvering, which, she doesn't.
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anthony
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Post by anthony on Jan 15, 2021 19:35:05 GMT -5
sp/SO 9w8(8w7)-6w7(7w8)-2w3(1w2) or some such is possible. Also, why not FeNi? She seems very beta to me and I really doubt she is my conflictor or superego. I could also see SeTi if not for the poems, or even SeFi over FeSi in particular. I guess vincent will have something to say about this...
E-wise, i'm not sure yet. Still wondering what it's in the stacking and what's in the fixes and subwings.
But ct wise, i'm almost positive that FeNi is correct.
A quite SeTi-ish one indeed.
Very close to FeSe if not actually FeSe.
FeSi, even with lots of demonstrative Se, is energetically softer, lighter. Doesn't have this kind of strength, nor this kind of gravitas.
You can actually see Ni auxiliary "zoning out" in the video, several times.
And everything she says in that video, from her sense of Time to the way she just "get" English, is consistent with it too.
And her thing with grammar is probably Te role.
Yeah...the fact that I even considered Te PoLR is quite stupid. She's notably Te-ish, even just in everyday living with her. At this point I'm with you guys and it is probably FeNi.
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anthony
Terra9Incognita
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Post by anthony on Jan 15, 2021 19:36:27 GMT -5
That would mean she's my father's(TeSi) superego partner, which would actually explain a lot.
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hiddenglass
Swallow
lay me to rest, take me to sea // read my mind… let me be.
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Post by hiddenglass on Jan 15, 2021 23:11:35 GMT -5
Very close to FeSe if not actually FeSe. interested in a discussion soon on what you think it means to "actually" be FeSe.
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