Anthony's Typing Thread

Okay, this has been an issue for some time now. I and others have vacillated between various possibilities for what stacking I could have, ordering of fixes, and the subwings. There's reason, well-formulated and thorough or not, for all of these possibilities. In part, the clarity around issues regarding my typing was somewhat muddled due to my eating disorder, which I delved into the meat of this system with, along with the changes and developments during the recovery process, now closing to an 'end.'

Roshan , vincent , adrian , and I discussed and came to a tentative conclusion about my full configuration today. To spare the suspense O.O it's this: so/SP-->sp/sx 9w1(1w2)-5w6(4w5)-3w4(4w5).

This post is primarily going to be used to relay, add upon, and explain the ideas discussed in the chat, in tandem with all(or at least all I can remember) of the ideas discussed in the past.


The first, pithiest, and least controversial topic of discussion overall is the order of my last two fixes - 5w6 and 3w4. For a brief moment over the summer, there was a phase in which Robin had believed me to be 3 second in light of the arisen 'shame issues' with respect to my eating disorder and relationship with my ex-girlfriend, generalized vanity, and certain interpersonal/social issues related to my withholding of information that caused me to occasionally lie(deceit), both straightforwardly and by omission.
This idea quickly died out upon the (re)realization of the degree of my overall 5ishness, which for the people reading, likely requires little or no explanation. For most of my life, including presently, I am not and have not been particularly image-oriented, skilled in creating, maintaining, and displaying images in comparison to most who are 3 second or leading.


The most controversial issue is that of my stacking, so I'm going to outline the points discussed in the chat as they happened, and add to them if I feel I need to:

-First off, if my stacking is sp/sx, then my second fix is 5w6(6w7). If it's Sx last, then my second fix is 5w6(4w5).
The reasons for this have not been verbally outlined. This is also an idea that multiple people reading this post have and will agree with, which I believe is likely for energistic reasons in tandem with comparisons of me to other exemplars of Sx last 5w6(6w7) fixers with similar configurations to me. I will further elucidate this later.

-Secondly, my 5w6 fix is very very strong. According to the theory of stacking ranges and stack-fix correlations, the strength of my 5w6 fix would imply a 'second variant' stacking(something like sp/SO, sp/SX, so/SP, etc).
In line with this, I find it highly unlikely that I'm sp/SX('decadent'), which pulls from Sx/So, when comparing myself to other sp/SX exemplars and isolating the instincts, along with the fact that...Sx/So is not at all a stacking I or anyone else has/would consider(ed) for me, and sp/SX would imply that 'Sx/So-ishness' would shine through much more strongly.
If I am in fact sp/sx, it should be SP/sx, moving into So/Sp.
However, comparing myself to somebody like adrian who is SP/sx(among other SP/sx's), there is a far more inscrutable, chthonic, cocooned nature to this stacking.

-so/SP fits all of the points in theory. It maintains the so/SP-->sp/sx stream, pulls up the 5w6, and also strengthens the last fix(3w4) as well. It also accounts for why I was 'confused'(or maybe not) for Sp/So.
However, considering the stackings within each flow(syn and contra) themselves...I visibly fit and internally resonate with more of the specifically So/Sp and Sp/Sx stacking themes and behavior, as opposed to any of the synflow ones. I feel and have felt this MORE consistently than I've felt myself relate to the synflow stacking themes/behaviors.
Keeping in line with the variant theory, if I were synflow, I'd have to be either sx/SP, so/SX, or sp/SO. None of these really fit.

-Overall, it makes sense that, if I am So/Sp, this accounts for the sixishness and oneishness, likely making me 5w6(4w5) fixed(which I have a list of tentative, experiential reasons for that ARE different from what I've heard and seen of 5w6(6w7) fixers) and 3w4(4w5) fixed.

-so/SP is not necessarily socially savvy in the way that so/sx is.

-I do not have the sp/sx predator LOOK, so if I were sp/sx I'd be sp/sx prey.

-Another possibility within reason is SP/sx-->so/sp, but I don't really have that strong of an Sp wall in comparison to other SP/xx moving backwards(into either Sx/Sp or So/Sp).

-From adrian : "This could be the strong 1 influence on the wing mixed with 3w4 or a possible so/sp influence, but as someone close to Anthony's generation he does posses a sort of refinement and elegance I don't see in males in his or my generation. It's not a classicist type of elegance but there's definitely a dignified air that's not quite developed yet due to age but is something that could be easily cultivated over time."

-I have complained of being blind to both Social and Sexual cues/signals. But it's unlikely that Sp/Sx would have complained about not noticing who is banging whom, who is after whom, in light of Taylah cheating on me.

-Occasionally, my tone becomes quite imperious. "This is the law." I would do this a lot more if I felt more knowledgeable and/or capable of self-assertion than I currently do, although, my self-assertion as of recently has been “amped” up quite a bit compared to a while ago, and has served myself and others well I think. I still have a LONG ways to go, though.
Anyways, the IMPULSE to do that comes up a LOT. And if not direct assertion...then the buildings(social 'edifices') crumble by my lack of input(that’s the FEELING, as grandiose as it sounds).
It’s not something I realized I did until these career issues started coming up. There was this sense of being forced into a directly involved, cooperative position that felt opposed to how I saw myself “approaching” the world.
And then recognized that even as a child/in high school, one of the reasons I struggled to maintain friendships was because I would approach people from an “oppositional” angle, as if indirectly prompting change, which I started to think was an indicator for counterflow.

-In Enneatude, I was the one who always wanted to write about the dangers of typing and it's individual/community effects, and I was the one who made google/whereby hangouts.
I took a certain 'umbrage' that the other members in the group really didn't upon Erica's announcement of the group's closing. I tried to warn that if Erica closed ET when she did, that her new site would fail.
I analyzed the situation in terms of the logistics and also the logistics vis a vis the platforms.
There was a strong sense that an enterprise that had been cultivated laboriously would fail leaving a void. I was officious about it, "the fools can't see the way it is. I will discuss this with her."
I am the one who makes videos about the Neoplotinian conception of the cosmos and its relationship to the system, and 'comes downs upon' others with what I've gathered and learned independently, all in an attempt to actually change everyone's approach to and view of the Enneagram. I was the one who gathered TwFP members, when initially learning, to make a video about counterphobic 6 versus 8 in an attempt to rectify misconceptions.

-There is very much a "Moses and the tablets" element to all of this^. Also, overall, there is the sense that I am most likely either doing that, in the process of it, or hiding out and 'seeping' from a lair/den. Indicating major So/Sp and Sp/Sx themes, unlikely to be found in other stackings.

-Sometimes, I seem to have a very clear birds eye social view.
Though the impulse to have that birds eye, wider social view, about “topics”(less directly personal) is pretty much always there. For instance, I'm far more likely to see the in depth effects of typing dangers actually play out and attempt to do something about it, than remember who said what at what time in the group chats, or even try to "cross pollinate."

-The Sp/Sx's we can think of, the ones we know, aren't likely to write screeds about, or perhaps even care about "changing the atmosphere with their voice" in this particular way. The only exception to this(sort of) is adrian , an SP/sx-->So/Sp, who isn't likely to want to be the one "carrying down the tablets" - it would be more personal.

-I THINK BIG. I have 'big' dreams(though often repressed), 'big' ideas, and 'big' visions. I do so in a way unlikely to be seen in synflow stackings, and there's also a "birds eye view" element to it.

-Overall, I certainly feel at the very least that the So/Sp<-->Sp/Sx stream is the most plausible of typings. Especially compared to something like sp/SO, which Rian referred to as a 'grounded So/Sx' and I agree. It's a natural belonger.

-I am very very very Sp 5ish and really very Sx 3ish. This coalesced over a long period of time for Robin. There is the sense that I consciously construct walls(as opposed to just having a heavy contained wall and a 'poker player' face as an Sp dom would), and use those walls to cultivate a sense of self-protection from external, brutal, forceful sources of harm.
Sp 9 is also less likely, as Sp 9 is also generally, and more often than I, comfortable in their own skin, and very "push and shove," grumpy. It's not "imperious." There is an assertiveness to it, not particularly present in me.

-More from adrian : "Anthony doesn't have a hauteur per se (like you said Se PoLR doesn't really posses that) but a sort of dignified separateness. Enfant extraordinaire."




I suspect that there's plenty I forgot to add to this post in the midst of writing it, but I will add more to it as I remember.


Credit to jastyne , who got to this typing before anyone else did. As much as I grudgingly, excruciatingly despise being incorrect, I very reluctantly, emphasis on the reluctance, hand over "thanks" and a *smile. Lol.
(a joke btw lol)

anthony

Proboards seems to have had enough of quoting that thread so...

"Are you assenting to that conception of 5w6(4w5) or the fact that I do that? Or both?"

Points covered in this video: (I'm going to edit this once I rewatch the video to see if I missed anything, and this will be done in the morning).

-- My Sp is what I most strongly and most consciously recognize as a personal motivator, it's focus consumes me most, or nearly all of the time. I viewed Sp as "fitness" - a word I found on a site, which described Sp as:

"Finally, SP-first issues revolve around: Am I healthy? Do I look good? How are my financial issues? How is that person’s financial issues? Am I hungry? etc. In other words, SP-firsts worry more about
fitness. Fitness in general, of course, not necessarily just body fitness. Therefore, they worry more about how fit they are in their environment, as well as how fit other people are in their environment.
They want to be fit. This represents more a potential energy, rather than mechanical and chemical energy. When someone leaves them… I guess perhaps they feel more unfit, since I’m sure they may rely on
others to keep them fit. Though, its still more important for they themselves to be fit on their own."

This isn't to make the definitive claim that Sp actually IS my dominant focus, although it is what I most consciously and most often recognize out of the three instincts.
It, Sp, my "fitness," is ALSO the site for nearly all of my destructive neuroses.

-- I lean towards Sx last, though not necessarily because of 'Sx-lastness.' It's more because of my Sp^, and because I see myself as having enough of a one-ish, social "megaphone-ing" quality(which I forgot to mention in the
video). From what I do understand about Sx, I wouldn't say "Sx qualities" so to speak, are absent from me. I can't even confidently claim that they're MORE absent than Social qualities.

-- Something I've noticed is that, to a large extent, my Social-related concerns really only arise once I can extrapolate how I'M threatened. My impulse is to "fix the social sphere" if I'm somehow gaining something from it.
But it all has to do with me and what I'm getting out of it...if I can't see how the social sphere directly concerns me(such as with most political discussion), I don't tend to give too many shits.
In an above post on here, I(but it was really Roshan ), mentioned the time when I wanted to organize a video-chatting room for Enneatude people. I remember explaining, and with better recall now, I think, that the
motivation for that was so that I could get E-knowledge in an easier way and keep the group mended because I wanted to be "entertained"(sit and watch).

-- I think part of my Social-last-like quality could come from the fact that I "hate" most people, even though that "hatred" isn't exactly explicit. I definitely have BOTH asocial and antisocial qualities, but due to my own
insecurities, I think I've internalized enough of a resentful and envy(insecurity)-fueled disregard for "humanity" that I've learned to ignore it and even to passive-aggressively go "against" it(or at least desire to).


Where I 'herr' most strongly to: sx last 9w1(1w2)-5w6(4w5)-3w4(4w5) still.

Part of me wonders "but is it (1w2) on the 9?," because with so/SP(potentially) and 5w6 and 3w4, I'm inclined to think (1w2) might be too much 1. Although I think I'm just nitpicking at this point, and that 9w1(1w2) is a fine typing for me.

My view of Sx:

"Thermal Vision"

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