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Post by Roshan on Jan 2, 2021 12:08:48 GMT -5
hmmm...disclaimer I never READ any of her books, was just bombarded by clips from the filming of The Handmaid's Tale for weeks on end. Based on this interview I might reverse the second and third fixes and also just sp/so and 'movement into the Hole', but I do think she's an sp/so 2w1 of some sort.
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Post by winter on Jan 2, 2021 13:32:45 GMT -5
Is there an example of an sx first 2w1? The idea that they’re all this ‘flat’ is weird. Like the bad stereotype of 5w6 but in the heart centre.
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Post by Roshan on Jan 2, 2021 13:52:43 GMT -5
winter , doesn't have to be sx/sp. You can just put 2w1 in the thread search engine; a few come up. Others I don't see mentioned there are Hillary Clinton, who we have as so/sp 2w1 with 1 fix. She's rigid but hardly flat, very intense actually. And Sharon Tate may have been sx/sp 2w1. But the thing is a wing acts kind of like 'rising sign' in astrology and when you have pride coming through 'righteous wrath rising' (i.e. perfectionism, orderliness) there really does tend to be a hauteur to it, a certain removal, in the same way most 6w5s are obviously hypervigilant in the eyes and the "Trapper" energy of the body, because that's what happens when cowardice comes through 'avarice rising'...
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Post by Roshan on Jan 2, 2021 13:59:08 GMT -5
Also I would hardly call Tori Amos overall 'flat'. She lights up as soon as she has an audience and whenever she lets her hair down. What happened though was that the image of how aloof her base metabolism is was suppressed, so I showed it. The following image was more promoted, and I did go through the phase of typing her as 7 lead, after all:
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Post by winter on Jan 2, 2021 14:04:23 GMT -5
There’s got to be some sexier people in the 2/1 space Though to be fair I did notice that my most likely tritype is weirdly awkward and unattractive and they contain both of these 2/1 & 5/6 so maybe there is something to that. I’ll have to go back through the 259 post and see whether the least awkward flick to 3&4 vs 1&6
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Post by winter on Jan 2, 2021 14:07:59 GMT -5
Also I would hardly call Tori Amos overall 'flat'. She lights up as soon as she has an audience and whenever she lets her hair down. What happened though was that the image of how aloof her base metabolism is was suppressed, so I showed it. The following image was more promoted, and I did go through the phase of typing her as 7 lead, after all: She definitely seems higher sx here than other videos I’ve seen of her so far. I guess having a 7 fix would help also.
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Post by Roshan on Jan 2, 2021 14:09:25 GMT -5
There’s got to be some sexier people in the 2/1 space Though to be fair I did notice that my most likely tritype is weirdly awkward and unattractive and they contain both of these 2/1 & 5/6 so maybe there is something to that. I’ll have to go back through the 259 post and see whether the least awkward flick to 3&4 vs 1&6 Well, Jennifer Lopez is in that search and I did just mention Sharon Tate...
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Post by Roshan on Jan 2, 2021 14:15:26 GMT -5
Oh, winter, someone else who seems to be 2w1 is Serena Williams, the tennis player. I have to finish linking and organizing this Two material. Also vincent is putting in a hashtag system, which should help a lot.
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Post by Roshan on Jan 2, 2021 14:19:54 GMT -5
But I don't really understand why you'd be 2w1 fix with 9w1(1w2) and a 5 fix, which seems to be what you're implying? ?
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Post by vincent on Jan 2, 2021 14:23:16 GMT -5
Oh, winter , someone else who seems to be 2w1 is Serena Williams, the tennis player. I have to finish linking and organizing this Two material. Also vincent is putting in a hashtag system, which should help a lot.
Yep. I was just reading this and looking at the search results (which includes all the (2w1) subwings too) and thinking to myself "that's exactly why we need those hashtags !"
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Post by Roshan on Jan 2, 2021 14:29:37 GMT -5
Also Jodie Foster 2w1 isn't 'sexy' like Brigitte Bardot but she is very, very 'effusive' (expressive), again, when she lets her hair down. There seems to be a restraint germane to 2w1 which also comes off as a 'mystique', even when they are a bit 'plain' (like Atwood). What you see as 'flat' seems to me more...contained.
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Post by Roshan on Jan 2, 2021 14:32:14 GMT -5
Like a more subtle 'come hither'. If you want me you have to work for it. ('Sexy librarian'). The Two is still seductive.
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Post by anthony on Jan 2, 2021 18:26:12 GMT -5
hmmm...disclaimer I never READ any of her books, was just bombarded by clips from the filming of The Handmaid's Tale for weeks on end. Based on this interview I might reverse the second and third fixes and also just sp/so and 'movement into the Hole', but I do think she's an sp/so 2w1 of some sort. sp/so 2w1(3w2)-5w6(4w5)-9w1(8w9) is what I think based on these videos. She almost became more "brow-beating" as she aged. In every video though, there's an entitlement that almost seductively forces you to be subservient. She "owns the ground she stands on" -- it's about her, and she wants you to know that 'it' is about her, but she doesn't want you to know that she wants you to know that. I think the Social 2 "ambition" feeds into Sp 2 "entitlement" and with those other rather severe fixes, creates that affect.
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Post by winter on Jan 2, 2021 23:11:07 GMT -5
But I don't really understand why you'd be 2w1 fix with 9w1(1w2) and a 5 fix, which seems to be what you're implying? ? I was just thinking of all the people on the 259 thread and wondering how many of the more awkward ones have a 1 wing and a 6 wing but I worded it badly Hashtag system sounds good though
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Post by jastyne on Jan 4, 2021 8:04:49 GMT -5
Roshan, I'm curious about this idea of Tori as a 2w1. The first typing of her from the database I was made aware of was so/sx 749-- what brought you to 2w1, and what are you thinking for tritype? I don't think she's so/sx 7, and I do think she's very likely sp/SO, 7 fixed, and 9 fixed... but I had been casually wondering about sp/so 479 for her, with a 4w3 (2w3) lead.
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