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Post by Admin on Aug 8, 2021 7:02:44 GMT -5
Choose TWO answers, ONE lead type and ONE stacking. You can look at other materials before (and after) voting. You can't talk to other members about the type or comment about it on the thread before the poll unlocks at 12:01 a.m. Tuesday NYC time.
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Post by Admin on Aug 8, 2021 7:03:50 GMT -5
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dummy
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Post by dummy on Aug 9, 2021 23:23:48 GMT -5
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Post by Roshan on Aug 10, 2021 22:07:23 GMT -5
Nobody cares about me.
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adrian
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Post by adrian on Aug 11, 2021 0:22:25 GMT -5
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Post by Roshan on Aug 11, 2021 6:59:13 GMT -5
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Post by vincent on Aug 11, 2021 8:34:37 GMT -5
Looking at the materials and will comment soon, So am i and so will i ! Roshan
ps : the fourth video dummy posted isn't available in my country
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adrian
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Post by adrian on Aug 11, 2021 9:25:40 GMT -5
I was the one that voted for 3w4 sp/sx (somewhere between midstream and decadent range) in response to the very first video. Initially, Debbie (pics) gave me slight Nico vibes. I don't think they're the exact same type by any means, and even if there might some overlap here and there, if you look at their pictures, their is a huge difference between their gazes. Nico's gaze is much more interiorized and detached, while Debbie's is much more aggressive ('predatory') and (yang - forward pushing) seductive while still maintaining a heavy sp cover. By the way, I've changed my mind on 3w4 and on that later. Speaking of a heavy sp-cover and after watching more videos of her, she doesn't merge with the interviewers or the audience in her performances. She's in her own world and the audience is invited to watch her. I've only looked into Blondie's biggest hits, and initially being an underground punk band from NY, they had their finger on the pulse of current and emergent trends of the time - "Heart of Glass" was essentially a disco hit, "Rapture" was the first non-hip-hop band to include rap, and the "Tide is High" incorporates reggae. They were both very much with the times and ahead of the times. With that being said, their lyrics aren't very deep but their songs are very catchy and relatable. However, I do want to comment on "Rapture" because I found it to be the most interesting song among their biggest hits. When I looked up interpretations of the song, I got three main interpretations of the song - drugs, the Christian rapture, and the budding consumerism that was emerging at the time. I can see how the third interpretation might hold up with the lyric of "24-hour shopping in rapture", the references to Cadillacs, Lincolns, Mercurys, and Subarus, and how we're being enraptured and hypnotized by this mass consumerism, but I think the song is much simpler than that. I think it's about being out on the night in NYC and being enraptured with hustle and bustle (and maybe with the help with drugs). The night is filled with lights, cars, bars, and dancing and she's enraptured in this ecstatic, sensory-overloaded bliss. Anyways, I'm going to go out on a limb and say 3w2 (4w3)-6w5(7w6) or 6w7(5w6)-9w8(1w9) sp/sx midstream or between midstream and decadent range. She doesn't have anything heavy in the 4 space or 5 space (or in the hole for that matter). Edit: This is with the caveat of only listening to their biggest hits. I haven't looked into the rest of their discography.
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dummy
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Post by dummy on Aug 11, 2021 9:35:28 GMT -5
the fourth video dummy posted isn't available in my country
Right. Your country. Drat. Brythonia. Always making trouble on the Riddermarks. The fourth video is an interview with Roshan on YouTube that says it's from an Australian show called Enough Rope from 2003. See if you can find it through a backdoor, prithee vincent . * * * (ps I've been promoted. I'm a hummingbird now. Excellent bird.)
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Post by vincent on Aug 11, 2021 10:02:27 GMT -5
the fourth video dummy posted isn't available in my country Right. Your country. Drat. Brythonia. Always making trouble on the Riddermarks. The fourth video is an interview with Roshan on YouTube that says it's from an Australian show called Enough Rope from 2003. See if you can find it through a backdoor, prithee vincent . I will. Thanks for the informations. zees werd ees nevair plurell fwenchie-joon vincent
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dummy
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Post by dummy on Aug 11, 2021 10:25:14 GMT -5
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Post by vincent on Aug 11, 2021 12:15:48 GMT -5
The fourth video is an interview with Roshan on YouTube that says it's from an Australian show called Enough Rope from 2003. See if you can find it through a backdoor, prithee vincent . I will. Thanks for the informations. No luck so far.
I'll try something else later though.
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Post by vincent on Aug 11, 2021 12:51:23 GMT -5
I voted sp/sx for the stacking and 2w3 for the lead fixation.
But it was kind of a last minute vote and i hadn't watched enough materials.
Now, i still think the stacking is right, and i would guess the range is sp/SX.
Actually, i hesitated with SX/so at some point.
For the lead fixation, i was hesitating between "3/2 line" and 6w5 head and i wasn't sure at all about it.
I voted 2w3 in part because of the predatory/yang side that Adrian mentioned above, thinking about "seduction and agression" and "line to 8". But i don't think that's right anymore.
Maybe not even as a fix.
3w2 lead doesn't seem right to me either.
If it was, i would expect her to be closer to Madonna than she is, and that doesn't feel right.
I need to watch more but i would change my vote for 6w5 now.
tbcd.
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Post by Amy on Aug 11, 2021 14:39:22 GMT -5
I also want to look at more of the material, but my initial vote for her was 3w2 sx/so. She seems to know how to use sx 3 ‘gender roles’ to her advantage in groups. However now I’m seeing it as a means to an end for her career. ‘’It was hard work’, she says when the interviewer asks her about her time as a playboy bunny. So I think she’s sp/sx, or more likely sp/SX. I agree with Adrian that she can come across as sexual and alluring, she doesn’t truly merge (‘she doesn't merge with the interviewers or the audience in her performances. She's in her own world and the audience is invited to watch her‘). She does seem aware enough of the culture to propel the success rate of Blondie. I saw this as not being social last initially, but a heavy sx 3 second fix, moving into social, could be enough of an explanation. I was torn between 3w2 and 3w4 initially, but I’ll change it to 3w4 because while she does seem to adapt to different roles, there’s a linear focus on becoming an artist, and expressing herself as she likes. This tension between becoming part of a group (or in this case the face of one) and understanding the audience, and maintaining an sp cover could point to being 9 first, but I’ll look at other material first first before deciding on the other fixes.
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Post by anthony on Aug 11, 2021 15:11:20 GMT -5
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