Post by vincent on Dec 29, 2020 9:07:36 GMT -5
I'm a bit late, sorry.
Yesterday turned out to be a very busy day. Didn't even unpack until this morning.
Anyway, let's get back to this and let's start with this :
I see FiNe, FiSi, SiFi, FiSe, and maybe SiFe as potential types for me.
Having Te high up in use doesn't seem like a strong reality for me. It's always quite clear to me how much more efficient and effective Te users are than me. They always seem to possess an ability streamline their system of doing things that just does not come naturally to me at all. I had a high Te friend who would use an empirical system she came up with to check how well she was doing on her goals. Shit like this doesn't even occur to me even though I think it could help me with self realization.
We can safely rule out SiFe already.
You might have issues with Te, which you clearly express in your video, but you're not Te polr.
The thing is you're acutely aware of those issues.
It's an area of frustration for you, not a blindspot nor an area of utter confusion.
You know there is room for improvement and development, and that it would help with self realization.
A SiFe would be very very very unlikely to be that "optimistic" about Te issues.
They would be very unlikely to describe themselves as "goal oriented", or to pinpoint the issue with planning the steps.
And they would be even more unlikely to have prepared some notes in advance to speak about it.
That's the irony here : you express your Te issues in Te terms.
Te polr would offer a nice little Ti tertiary theory about it, as part of a Fe show, backed up with anecdotes in SiFe case, packaged as aphorism in NiFe's case.
From what you're saying here, and from what you said in your video, the two possible slots for your Te are jumper auxiliary and inferior.
SiFi and FiNe.
Both slots are relative value slot, which means you won't use that function for its own sake, but in service of other functions.
Which also means your "performance" with it would vary a lot depending on the context and the nature of the incentive that lead you to use it.
In both cases you would feel a lot less effective than Te dom, Te tertiary people and non jumper Te auxiliary people.
"it doesn't come naturally to me at all" is a strong hint that jumper auxiliary is the most likely of the two hypothesis.
So far what we have seen with jumpers is that they describe their auxiliary function as somewhat "foreign".
Not an "organic" part of them.
As a NiTi jumper, Fe doesn't come naturally to me either.
Even now at 41, after more than a decade of heavily and routinely using it in the classroom, it still doesn't come naturally to me.
Even now at 41, after more than a decade of heavily and routinely using it in the classroom, it still doesn't come naturally to me.
I still have to "summon" it. And i still feel somewhat "possessed" by it when i have to use it for extended period of time.
And in a way, the better it get, the weirder it feels, actually.
On the other hand, Te inferior would be Te seeking.
The main characteristic of that slot is the tendency to seek external help and to delegate it to people who can do it better.
You do mention those people, but you significantly don't mention them as duals, as a potential solution to your issues.
You would like to have some of what they have. You don't seem willing to just follow them and forget about it, as most FiNe would be.
So i'm currently and quite strongly leaning toward SiFi for you.
If that's right, it's no wonder AT ALL that you would relate to Auburn's description of FiNe.
His understanding of Fi leans toward the softer side of it and in many ways would fit SiFi even better than it fits (most) FiNe.
I also don't think Fe Polr describes me as I'm plenty aware of and can easily participate in the vibe of a group.
Well see, FiNe is Fe ignoring.
In many ways, they are LESS aware and LESS willing to participate in the vibe of a group than Fe polr is. Especially at average level of health.
And the thing is, Fe polr is one of the less understood and most caricatured polr function in the "community at large".
It is NOT a lack of awareness of the vibe of group and an inability to participate in it.
It's NOT low agreeableness.
it's NOT autistic-ish unresponsiveness.
it's NOT creepy asociality.
Nor any of the bullshit propagated by edgy teens pretending to be INTJ masterminds all over the Internet.
Especially not in Si dom case.
Technically, polr is simply the tendency to use 6th, aux and tertiary when polr should be used.
In Fe polr case, it manifests as a tendency to use Ti over Fe, Te over Fe , Fi over Fe, when everyone else would just use Fe.
I'll try to explain what it is in my next post.
But before i do that, i would like to know what's you mean by "plenty aware" and "easily participate in the vibe of a group".
Especially when the group is big enough to have an mind of its own so to speak, and one on one interactions aren't an option anymore.
