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Post by vincent on Dec 15, 2020 3:12:25 GMT -5
Anyway, regardless of its flaws (not worse than any other test btw)...
I would be especially curious to see your results on this one Amy jastyne
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Post by Roshan on Dec 15, 2020 9:43:32 GMT -5
And @cardia !
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Post by vincent on Dec 15, 2020 10:53:42 GMT -5
Right ! @cardia too !
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Amy
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Post by Amy on Dec 15, 2020 21:35:34 GMT -5
I'm always so indecisive on self evaluation tests, but here are my results:
Ne (extraverted intuition) 32.4 Ni (introverted intuition) 31.6 Se (extraverted sensing) 14 Si (introverted sensing) 27 Te (extraverted thinking) 18 Ti (introverted thinking) 33 Fe (extraverted feeling) 14 Fi (introverted feeling) 25
(grant) function type INTP myers function type INTP myers-briggs type INTP - the TP here is fainted for some reason
ESFP 32.85 ENFJ 36.45 ESFJ 37.6 ESTP 37.85 ENTJ 43.45 ISFJ 44.4 ESTJ 44.6 ISFP 45.15 ISTJ 45.4 INFJ 54.75 INTJ 55.75 ISTP 56.15 ENFP 57 INFP 57.8 ENTP 62 INTP 68.8
e n f p -23.1 24.55 -5.5 12.85 -2.43 1.93 -0.41 0.54 z z z z 2.66 -1.59 -0.23 -1.43 27.05 -15.8 1.15 -11.8 i s t j
-I don't know if the bottom chart is relevant
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Post by Roshan on Dec 15, 2020 22:28:22 GMT -5
Amy, well...it doesn't sound Ne PolR, does it? The sensing function scores aren't really consequential for distinguishing between TiNe and TiNi (TiSe jumper) because as a jumper your sixth function (Si) would be heightened and at your age your second function could be very underdeveloped. But PolR coming out highest of all seems...unlikely...
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Post by Roshan on Dec 15, 2020 22:35:11 GMT -5
Although...but.... and also I got confused with this test when I just tagged one person to take it, thinking about the first test that everyone else took or vincent tagged here. Of course everyone should take both.
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Post by Amy on Dec 16, 2020 0:48:02 GMT -5
Amy , well...it doesn't sound Ne PolR, does it? The sensing function scores aren't really consequential for distinguishing between TiNe and TiNi (TiSe jumper) because as a jumper your sixth function (Si) would be heightened and at your age your second function could be very underdeveloped. But PolR coming out highest of all seems...unlikely... I'm going to bed in a minute since I have to be up earlier tomorrow, but yeah according to that test Ne doesn't seem PoLR. Ne PoLR to me can be kind of impressive in it's 'streamed lined ' thinking and I don't see myself having that. What I do sometimes notice with myself though is that, when thinking through a problem I can go through different possible perspectives/ angles in my head. Either way I'd say I'm a Ti dom, so 'self correcting' my thoughts makes sense either way, and checking the collective other (Fe) makes sense still as well. Only thing is if I get stuck on a loop thinking of something, there may be a point where my thinking becomes, well, a 'loop', or at least until there's something new worth rethinking about. So maybe it's possible I do have 'vortex thinking', it just takes time to see that it's there. I don't however have a problem with novelty for novelty's sake, even though it's an on/ off thing whether I feel I can personally add something new in the moment. I'm not a Te user though either, so focusing on utility is of less importance. I had a document of my thoughts during the time on how I related to Ne/Si vs. Ni/Se. I'll make a new thread under the memborabilia section, and if I need to move it, or even temporality delete it just let me know. I may need to read it again after since it's from a bit ago. I'll try to respond to whatever comments/ questions I can, but exams end on Friday so I may wait until the weekend assuming nothing else comes up.
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Post by vincent on Dec 16, 2020 7:48:50 GMT -5
At first glance, your results seems to strongly confirm INTP. At least if you trust it to be able to differentiate between functions properly.
But it also tells another story imo.
See, the combined total of your extraverted functions is really low.
Lower than it is for most of the introverted freaks who posted their results already.
So it's not just that your Ne score is high.
It's that Ne appears to be the ONLY strong extraverted function here.
And the thing is, Ne (especially MBTI Ne) is in many ways the less extraverted of extraverted functions.
it's the extraverted function of future extraversion, of virtual extraversion, of possible extraversion.
On the other hand, ALL your introverted functions came out very high and pretty close from each others. Including Si.
And i suspect this Ne score might reflect a specific mindset, something about your current situation, rather than an actual cognitive function.
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Post by Amy on Dec 16, 2020 8:09:12 GMT -5
Looking again I’m not so sure about my Fe being lower than my Te either. Like even with heavy Ti ‘cut the fluff’ and severe introversion I’m not that* in the shadows and feel like I can reflect others enough socially. Te efficiency/ prioritizing seems like something I can ‘get’ but takes a while to get back to. I’ll have to think about it more.
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Post by adrian on Dec 19, 2020 11:53:29 GMT -5
Ne (extraverted intuition) 15.6 Ni (introverted intuition) 33 Se (extraverted sensing) 21 Si (introverted sensing) 31 Te (extraverted thinking) 19 Ti (introverted thinking) 31 Fe (extraverted feeling) 22 Fi (introverted feeling) 32 Ni > Fi > Si, Ti > Fe > Se > Te > NeI’m not too surprised by this order.(grant) function type INFJ myers function type ISFJ myers-briggs type INTP (emphasis on INxx) INTP and INFJ are obviously no-goes for me. However, ISFJ as my function type makes a lot of sense. It is my quasi-identical.
ENFP 40.5 ENTP 40.5 ESTJ 42.9 ENTJ 45.75 ESFP 46.75 ESTP 46.75 ESFJ 46.9 ENFJ 49.75 INTP 52.7 INFP 54.7 ISTJ 57.1 ISTP 57.25 INTJ 58.25 ISFJ 59.1 ISFP 59.25 INFJ 60.25 Top 3 scores: INFJ, ISFP, ISFJ
These scores are much more reasonable and accurate than my scores on the other test.
My explanation for the results on the other test. Anyways I’m definitely not Ni frame, but instead a FiNi jumper with Si 6th that can get a little haywire.
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Post by Roshan on Dec 19, 2020 12:36:03 GMT -5
adrian , your scores for Ni, Fi and Si are so close they're just not meaningfully different. They're basically the same score and surely you know this; also,Ti is right in there with them. All from 31 to 33. Meanwhile the difference between these four and the second tier scores, Fe and Se, is meaningful. But they themselves are also tantamount to 'the same score' between them--22 and 21. Your third tier is your PolR-- Ne 15.6, which is significant, and Te hovers between second and third tier. Your endowing minuscule differences with such delineation that they must now be hierarchized and schematized seems itself to be an example of " Si 6th that can get a little haywire." But it's not just that it's Si sixth; it's that it's Si as proxy for Se.
There is real force in this--it's like you're conferring trivial variations ( faaaaaaaaar within margin of error) with a talismanic power in order to create a sort of 'categorical monument'. The question is, what's the purpose of it?
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Post by vincent on Dec 19, 2020 12:47:18 GMT -5
The only reason the test is typing you as Ni dom is because your Ni came up 1 point higher than your Fi.
That's all there is to it, really.
And it's not just your Si6th that can get a "little haywire", if those results have to be trusted. It's also your Ti 8th.
31 is very very high for a role function.
edit : cross-post. i didn't saw Roshan already posted.
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Post by adrian on Dec 19, 2020 14:39:09 GMT -5
adrian , your scores for Ni, Fi and Si are so close they're just not meaningfully different. They're basically the same score and surely you know this; also,Ti is right in there with them. All from 31 to 33. Meanwhile the difference between these four and the second tier scores, Fe and Se, is meaningful. But they themselves are also tantamount to 'the same score' between them--22 and 21. Your third tier is your PolR-- Ne 15.6, which is significant, and Te hovers between second and third tier. Your endowing minuscule differences with such delineation that they must now be hierarchized and schematized seems itself to be an example of " Si 6th that can get a little haywire." But it's not just that it's Si sixth; it's that it's Si as proxy for Se.
There is real force in this--it's like you're conferring trivial variations ( faaaaaaaaar within margin of error) with a talismanic power in order to create a sort of 'categorical monument'. The question is, what's the purpose of it? And vincent: I don’t know if I can answer what the purpose of it is, but I can try to expound on the mechanisms for why the distributions are the way they are. I didn’t even consider the wonky Ti 8th until Vincent mentioned it, but come to think of it, it makes a lot of sense. With Si 6th there’s an overreach and an overcompensation for the jumped over Se. It becomes a proxy for Se as Roshan mentioned. What the results indicate, coupled with the wonky Ti 8th, is a distorted self- narrative. With that comes the allowance of premises that don’t and shouldn’t cohere together but they end up existing in that narrative/paradigm. With Ti role there’s also also an overreach and overcompensation but it doesn’t have the same nuance and power as the Si 6th. I think there’s a general downplay/unawareness/unacknowledgement of the power and force I wield hence the low scores on the extroverted functions and the undifferentiated scores for the introverted functions. I think I see what Roshan means by “talismanic power in order to create a sort of 'categorical monument'” - the narrative shifting of Si 6th is so overreaching and pervasive that it bulldozes all other narratives, and these scores are totems of that.
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Post by vincent on Dec 19, 2020 15:34:49 GMT -5
Well, there is another thing you apparently didn't consider here, besides the "wonky Ti 8th".
That INTP third results, coming out the blue, despite the fact that the two other results are F over T. And despite the fact that the sum of your F is greater than the sum of your T functions.
Somehow, this test works better for you than it did for everyone else.
And you make it sounds like it works better than it actually does.
That's the totemic voodoo.
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Post by jastyne on Dec 20, 2020 11:51:26 GMT -5
Took it I tried to just answer quickly based on my first instincts rather than attempt to think through the questions carefully-- I find that can end up putting me in excessive, "Well, it depends-- do they mean _____, or _____?" where i end up confused about where I'm standing and end up in a mild brain whiteout, lol. Thoughts? Ne (extraverted intuition) 37.6 Ni (introverted intuition) 41.4 Se (extraverted sensing) 15 Si (introverted sensing) 20 Te (extraverted thinking) 9 Ti (introverted thinking) 22 Fe (extraverted feeling) 22 Fi (introverted feeling) 29 (grant) function type INFJ myers function type INFP myers-briggs type INFP ✪ click for more analysis ESTJ 28.4 ISTJ 29.6 ESTP 30.4 ESFP 32.4 ISFJ 37.6 ENTJ 38.8 ISTP 43.6 ESFJ 46.4 INTP 55.2 ISFP 55.6 ENFJ 56.8 INTJ 62 ENTP 64 ENFP 66 INFP 67.2 INFJ 70 e n f p -17.1 44.05 4.6 27.6 -1.76 3.42 0.17 2.18 z z z z 2 -3.27 -1.39 -2.96 21.2 -37.65 -17.45 -27.5 i s t j
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