hiddenglass
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Post by hiddenglass on Dec 2, 2020 3:14:41 GMT -5
currently typing them as
1w92w1 ⬧ 2w31w2 ⬧ 5w66w7 ⬧ SPsc ⬧ SiTe
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3w22w1 ⬧ 9w11w2 ⬧ 6w77w8 ⬧ SPSC ⬧ TeSi
main interest is establishing a good justification for typing my mother with 5, when she does say some things that are quite stereotypically 6ish.
secondarily, interested in my dad's gut fix and paradigm.
finally, I'm open to interrogations re their cogtype, though this would require more than a cursory examination for me to accept changes
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Post by Roshan on Dec 6, 2020 22:13:17 GMT -5
Hey hiddenglass , I haven't watched the whole thing yet but your dad seems right give or take a tweak or two. But why don't you think your mother leads with 9? And also they seem like SiTe and and SiFe kindreds to me so far. Why TeSi for mom? |
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hiddenglass
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Post by hiddenglass on Dec 7, 2020 10:07:59 GMT -5
Hey hiddenglass , I haven't watched the whole thing yet but your dad seems right give or take a tweak or two. But why don't you think your mother leads with 9? And also they seem like SiTe and and SiFe kindreds to me so far. Why TeSi for mom?
I'd have my mom as 9 if not for the hard edge she shows when it comes to her standards . . . I've never experienced her as being able to be worn down like I'd expect a 9w1 when faced with my stubbornness would be, as well as the sp1 "Worry" seeming to fit. If, as a kid, I didn't clean the bathroom well enough, she'd send me back. And back, and back, until I met her standards. She does have a 9ish lack of focus on self, but it fits with what I imagine a 1 would be like, clinging instead directly to her superegoic standards out of presupposed necessity, rather than some sort of means of earning space. |
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Post by Roshan on Dec 7, 2020 10:12:43 GMT -5
Hey hiddenglass , I haven't watched the whole thing yet but your dad seems right give or take a tweak or two. But why don't you think your mother leads with 9? And also they seem like SiTe and and SiFe kindreds to me so far. Why TeSi for mom?
I've never experienced her as being able to be worn down like I'd expect a 9w1 when faced with my stubbornness would be, as well as the sp1 "Worry" seeming to fit. Well that's the thing; she doesn't seem like a 9w1. She seems like a 9w8(1w9) to me, and then probably with 2w3, not 3w2. Again, I have to watch it all. tbcd. |
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hiddenglass
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Post by hiddenglass on Dec 7, 2020 10:20:23 GMT -5
I have mom as SiTe, dad as TeSi
I've never experienced her as being able to be worn down like I'd expect a 9w1 when faced with my stubbornness would be, as well as the sp1 "Worry" seeming to fit. Well that's the thing; she doesn't seem like a 9w1. She seems like a 9w8(1w9) to me, and then probably with 2w3, not 3w2. Again, I have to watch it all., will look again at the it's as well, tbcd. |
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Post by Roshan on Dec 7, 2020 10:47:12 GMT -5
I have her with 2w3 second and 5w6 last Yes, very, very possible. Very close to Hannah M. if you remember her. btw I definitely have a tendency to type 9w8 > 9w1 more than most people but having been raised by three 9w8s, father, older sister, and aunt next door, I think I"m on to something, and as is often the case, the reality probably lies somewhere in between the norm and the new. Your mom seems sp/SO 9w8(1w9)-2w3(3w4)-5w6(6w7) or something very close to that to me. |
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Post by vincent on Dec 7, 2020 20:06:43 GMT -5
I'll need headphones and some more quiet time for this but i'll watch the videos soon.
For now i can say that, at (very) first glance, i'm inclined to agree with TeSi for your father.
Not sure about your mother yet, but probably Si dom indeed.
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adrian
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Post by adrian on Dec 7, 2020 20:49:09 GMT -5
I’ll take a look at this after work.
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Post by Roshan on Dec 24, 2020 11:29:27 GMT -5
bump
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anthony
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Post by anthony on Dec 24, 2020 13:25:39 GMT -5
Roshan , honestly, not exactly sure where you're seeing 9w8. I had her as a 9 as well(9w1), somewhat tentatively due to hiddenglass 's personal accounts of her in comparison to the confirmed 9w1s he knew(though she's also his mother which would change the dynamic a lot). The primary thing that's keeping from typing her as a 9w8 is just the visible passivity and what appears to be a stubbornness around standards specifically. She also strikes me as a bit too...'discerning'(which could be explained by 5w6 last) for 9w8.
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Post by Roshan on Dec 24, 2020 13:49:34 GMT -5
anthony , when I commented above I had only looked at the first video. She actually seems like a classic higher sx 9w8(1w9) in it (not sx last) to me. But that must have to do with the intertype relations with her husband. I just watched the beginning of the second one now and I agree the dominance of One wing seems clear. But not clear enough to BE a One, especially one with sx last AND 5w6. I felt initially very thrown by my having switched around the typings; it was jarring so I didn't continue right away, thinking other people were going to. Then I bumped it up today and I'll be rewatching the first and watching the second.
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anthony
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Post by anthony on Dec 24, 2020 13:57:58 GMT -5
Okay, I'm about to do sum stuff for Christmas Eve. Once I get home and find the time, I'm going to rewatch the videos and see what else I have to say about it as well.
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anthony
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Post by anthony on Dec 24, 2020 14:02:25 GMT -5
anthony , when I commented above I had only looked at the first video. She actually seems like a classic higher sx 9w8(1w9) in it (not sx last) to me. But that must have to do with the intertype relations with her husband. I just watched the beginning of the second one now and I agree the dominance of One wing seems clear. But not clear enough to BE a One, especially one with sx last AND 5w6. I felt initially very thrown by my having switched around the typings; it was jarring so I didn't continue right away, thinking other people were going to. Then I bumped it up today and I'll be rewatching the first and watching the second. Yes, that's why I was hesitant to type her as a 1 when speaking about it with hiddenglass. She does certainly seem 5w6(6w7) fixed to me as well. |
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hiddenglass
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Post by hiddenglass on Dec 28, 2020 21:19:36 GMT -5
def hard to conceive of my mom as 9w8 . . .
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anthony
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Post by anthony on Dec 29, 2020 17:07:24 GMT -5
def hard to conceive of my mom as 9w8 . . . Agreed. I think it's 9w1 and probably 9w1(1w2). For a moment it seemed somehow plausible that it could be 9w8, given what you've expressed as her solidity in the face of your stubbornness(which is also why we thought maybe 1 leading). Then it just dawned on me that, well, she's also your mother -- and 9w1(1w2) would possess more than enough rigidity not to back down in the face of your stubbornness if they're confident in their own judgements(and she's your mother, again). 1 lead also seemed somehow plausible for those same reasons you mentioned above, but with Sp leading and 5w6(which has a wormhole to 1w9 as well), she does seem too...amenable, perhaps, for 1 lead. |
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