Post by Roshan on Nov 18, 2020 20:22:18 GMT -5
I'll never forget the day in what? 1982? when Dr. Samuel Armistead went off on one of his usual tangents (with Armistead everything was always a tangent) in the Medieval Spanish Lit class in the graduate program at U. of P. But this day was different because it wasn't even about Spanish lit, not that any day couldn't be --and it would be--about something else too, but this time it really wasn't about Spain...or come to think of it about lit either...
It happened when on one of the usual tangents starting from El Cid, I think, he mentioned something about the Albigense Crusades and we looked at him blankly and he said 'What? You never heard of the Albigense Crusades!, and that was the whole rest of the class, he just rambled on about the Cathars. And that was it and it was over for me. Everything changed that day.
But you know me, I'm sx dom and sx dom can be slow to consummate , and so I know a lot but also little about the Cathars, who led me eventually to Persia about which I know rather more...well,sort of led me, I mean of course I'd heard of Persia before the Cathars and my mother had the Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam..and there is more...yet still...and so...
today I wound up writing a post on YT under of all things Debbie Reynolds singing "Dominique" in "The Singing Nun" in response to someone trashing someone for trashing Saint Dominic for the Dominicans having persecuted the Cathars. Then the first someone trasher said well they deserved it, they starved themselves, hated the world, a threat to humankind...I posted my response here below and when I wrote it I thought hey that's not bad Robin, but you know you really should finally know more about the Cathars. I mean it's not exactly 1982 anymore...
and so that's what I'm going to do here, learn and in so doing teach about the Cathars, and maybe just maybe fill a hole or two more in the Swiss cheese brain that is moon and made of green green but just won't stop jumping over...
but first The Post
nah, it''s more likely that paradoxically, due to the stringency of their dualistic worldview, the rank and file weren't remotely expected to uphold the 'ideal' and the Parfaits did it for them. That's why there was so much intermarriage in Langue D'Oc at the time; whence the edict at the massacre of Beziers "Kill them all. God will know his own". This was a very open society and the true precursor of the Renaissance. Troubadours had to flee to Florence inspiring Petrarch and then Dante.. Cathar 'heretics', like Zoroastrians and many other dualists, were probably for the most part quite 'worldly'' relative to the Catholic orthodoxy of the day. The Albigense Crusade was a pretext for the Norman French king to conquer Langue D'Oc in alliance with the Papacy, and as the first crusade was training ground and template for such future horrors as the Children's Crusade, etc. I'm no anti-Catholic at all, btw. (Whence this post under "The Singing Nun").
It happened when on one of the usual tangents starting from El Cid, I think, he mentioned something about the Albigense Crusades and we looked at him blankly and he said 'What? You never heard of the Albigense Crusades!, and that was the whole rest of the class, he just rambled on about the Cathars. And that was it and it was over for me. Everything changed that day.
But you know me, I'm sx dom and sx dom can be slow to consummate , and so I know a lot but also little about the Cathars, who led me eventually to Persia about which I know rather more...well,sort of led me, I mean of course I'd heard of Persia before the Cathars and my mother had the Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam..and there is more...yet still...and so...
today I wound up writing a post on YT under of all things Debbie Reynolds singing "Dominique" in "The Singing Nun" in response to someone trashing someone for trashing Saint Dominic for the Dominicans having persecuted the Cathars. Then the first someone trasher said well they deserved it, they starved themselves, hated the world, a threat to humankind...I posted my response here below and when I wrote it I thought hey that's not bad Robin, but you know you really should finally know more about the Cathars. I mean it's not exactly 1982 anymore...
and so that's what I'm going to do here, learn and in so doing teach about the Cathars, and maybe just maybe fill a hole or two more in the Swiss cheese brain that is moon and made of green green but just won't stop jumping over...
but first The Post
nah, it''s more likely that paradoxically, due to the stringency of their dualistic worldview, the rank and file weren't remotely expected to uphold the 'ideal' and the Parfaits did it for them. That's why there was so much intermarriage in Langue D'Oc at the time; whence the edict at the massacre of Beziers "Kill them all. God will know his own". This was a very open society and the true precursor of the Renaissance. Troubadours had to flee to Florence inspiring Petrarch and then Dante.. Cathar 'heretics', like Zoroastrians and many other dualists, were probably for the most part quite 'worldly'' relative to the Catholic orthodoxy of the day. The Albigense Crusade was a pretext for the Norman French king to conquer Langue D'Oc in alliance with the Papacy, and as the first crusade was training ground and template for such future horrors as the Children's Crusade, etc. I'm no anti-Catholic at all, btw. (Whence this post under "The Singing Nun").