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Post by Roshan on Aug 17, 2020 22:34:36 GMT -5
6 with 1 or 1 with 6? so/sp or sp/so? 3 or 2w1 heart? Or something else? SiTe? vincent , anthony , Amy , anyone? |
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Post by Roshan on Aug 17, 2020 22:37:57 GMT -5
He's more chill here because he didn't just get such stressful news.
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Post by Roshan on Aug 17, 2020 22:39:22 GMT -5
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Post by Roshan on Aug 21, 2020 19:59:57 GMT -5
Bump.
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anthony
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Post by anthony on Aug 22, 2020 3:23:35 GMT -5
Immediate thoughts after watching:
Energetically he strikes me as so/SP, 6w5(7w6) leads I think, with 1w9(2w1) second and 2w1(3w2) heart - the only other possibility for heart in my opinion being 3w4, and he doesn't seem to show nearly enough...irony and acerbity for that. Under all of the apparent tension and watchfulness he seems quite "uppity" and inclusive.
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Post by Roshan on Aug 22, 2020 8:21:54 GMT -5
anthony, did you see his wiki and the article he wrote? I leaned to 6 > 1 until I read the article. The article suggests 1 > 6 (what is right > what is fair), but if he has even two out of three--1 fix, so/sp, and 2w1--it could still be 6 lead. And especially if he has all three. Also what about his c.t.? I'll wait for more input from you and others before I give more.
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Post by vincent on Aug 22, 2020 13:46:59 GMT -5
Energetically he seems to be SiTe indeed.
A well developed one, with strong Ni role and remarkably little shadowing, especially given the context.
And it does make a lot of sense imo.
BDS strategy after all is about "starving the Beast". And that does fits very well with Ni role with Te auxiliary, Fi agenda and Si frame.
E-wise, he is a lot harder
I'm inclined to agree with Anthony about his heart fix.
But then the question becomes how much 1 factor and so/sp factor is too much for him.
i'm tempted to say 1 is leading, mostly because of the constant reference to International Law as the standard of the Delta Empire.
That would also make senses in terms of ct/E correlations imo.
But i'm not sure yet.
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Post by Roshan on Aug 22, 2020 14:05:41 GMT -5
Well, see...BDS strategy is also very sp. Very.
Sooo....there is that...
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Post by vincent on Aug 22, 2020 14:17:31 GMT -5
"When Zionist militias forced my grandmother, Rasmiyyah, and her family out of their home in Safad at gunpoint during the 1948 Nakba, the process of settler-colonialism that was propelled by the Balfour Declaration and that culminated in ethnic cleansing became more than just a national tragedy for the indigenous people of Palestine. It became personal. I've inherited from my late grandmother her passion for human dignity and her tenacity in pursuing justice. It is only natural, then, that in the current debate on Balfour's legacy I choose to focus on both."
"I have promised my grandmother that I shall never give up my part in this human rights mission until justice and dignity prevail. I shall not break that promise."
He begins and ends this article with a mention of his grandmother.
He is "just" trying to be the perfect grandson, so to speak.
Which in this case means to dry the alien Tree that invaded the family Home, by divesting ressources from it.
Sounds like the very cold wrath of One, correcting a wrong by doing the "right thing right", so to speak.
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Post by vincent on Aug 22, 2020 14:29:16 GMT -5
Image search returns quite a few photos of him wearing a Kieffeh. And even more with colors that are a bit reminiscent of the camouflage outfit of middle eastern armies.
tbcd.
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Post by Roshan on Aug 22, 2020 14:42:31 GMT -5
"When Zionist militias forced my grandmother, Rasmiyyah, and her family out of their home in Safad at gunpoint during the 1948 Nakba, the process of settler-colonialism that was propelled by the Balfour Declaration and that culminated in ethnic cleansing became more than just a national tragedy for the indigenous people of Palestine. It became personal. I've inherited from my late grandmother her passion for human dignity and her tenacity in pursuing justice. It is only natural, then, that in the current debate on Balfour's legacy I choose to focus on both."
"I have promised my grandmother that I shall never give up my part in this human rights mission until justice and dignity prevail. I shall not break that promise."
He begins and ends this article with a mention of his grandmother.
He is "just" trying to be the perfect grandson, so to speak.
Which in this case means to dry the alien Tree that invaded the family Home, by divesting ressources from it.
Sounds like the very cold wrath of One, correcting a wrong by doing the "right thing right", so to speak.
He is also "just" trying to be "just". It " became personal" in 1948. He wasn't even alive in 1948; the complete issue didn't even exist until 1948. And yet it could become personal for him. On two counts--justice and dignity--which most people wouldn't even separate. But for E1, which is the domain, so to say, of both, there could be a clear differentiation. These are the kinds of things that made me think One is leading. My sense by the end was actually sp/SO 1 with 6 second and heart not sure. Still not sure of anything yet. |
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Post by anthony on Aug 22, 2020 14:44:14 GMT -5
I have read the article, and I see what you mean. However, he repeatedly addressed his family throughout the article - not just to draw out sympathy from the reader and make the article relatable, but because it seems like he orients quite literally around “duty” to his family/origin. He even ends the article with “ I have promised my grandmother that I shall never give up my part in this human rights mission until justice and dignity prevail. I shall not break that promise.” It SOUNDS 1ish but I’m really getting the feeling that his participation in all of this to begin with is all about “duty” a la Social 6, as if he has no other reference point. But, this is all tentative and I’ll look into this more before I add anything else...
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Post by Roshan on Aug 22, 2020 14:44:37 GMT -5
I would think that a 6 lead would see it as having always been personal too.
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Post by vincent on Aug 22, 2020 14:48:00 GMT -5
Right. Indeed.
That would be my guess too at this point. But i'm not sure either.
tbcd.
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Post by Roshan on Aug 22, 2020 14:48:26 GMT -5
"“ I have promised my grandmother that I shall never give up my part in this human rights mission until justice and dignity prevail. I shall not break that promise.”
promised, mission, justice, dignity, promise...Yes it's duty but duty to what? Where is simple fairness? Or even just welfare?
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