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Post by Roshan on Aug 15, 2020 18:59:39 GMT -5
These are the two videos I made a couple of years ago for Enneatude group about sx Six v. sx Four and the prelude to the poem Thirty Birds.
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Post by Roshan on Aug 15, 2020 19:12:27 GMT -5
Those videos were passed on to Auburn along with some other stuff; I made my Facebook photos public for him too., And here's the vultology report he wrote. |
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Post by vincent on Aug 19, 2020 9:26:58 GMT -5
Those videos were passed on to Auburn along with some other stuff; I made my Facebook photos public for him too., And here's the vultology report he wrote.Welp, no mention of Se at all....
And that "Psychology (Brief)" where he says you "fall into the same category as Ni spiritual leaders" (who aren't even Ni lead btw). Ugh.
The rest is so categorical and anti-holistical by design that it's very off putting for me, even if some of it is certainly right.
I will reread it and get back to it later.
tbcd.
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Post by Roshan on Aug 19, 2020 9:54:40 GMT -5
Welp, no mention of Se at all.... Nope. But a big huge deal made about Ji, which really, if it's NiTe III what's so atypical and what is all the fuss about? I mean I understand that it's because I'm a 'jumper' (one of the few smart things the StupidPowers Ltd. company would say) but that's not said. So if I'm NiTe III, which includes Fi, so what if I show strong sustained Ji at one point in a long video vincent ? |
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Post by vincent on Aug 19, 2020 9:57:34 GMT -5
Right. It simply doesn't add up.
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Post by vincent on Aug 19, 2020 10:02:31 GMT -5
I don't think he uses the concept of Jumper at all actually.
And that might be the root of the issue here.
He sees more Fi than he would expect from even NiTe III-, but he doesn't know what it is and why it is.
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Post by vincent on Aug 19, 2020 10:08:22 GMT -5
Actually, being a jumper isn't just about "showing a lot of" tertiary. It's about the way tertiary develops first, covers a larger than usual spectrum, has a wider range of sustained uses, to the point of competing with auxiliary, which then get subdued, etc..
But to get that you need to look at the gestalt holistically, and you need to look at slot-specific behaviors. Measuring nostrils, brows and "signals" won't cut it.
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Post by Roshan on Aug 19, 2020 10:09:37 GMT -5
Well he implicitly uses the concept of jumper vincent because he posits atypical development so an NiTe 1-1- is possible, which is the 'jumper' (as is for that matter 1--1, etc). The thing is he doesn't elaborate on the atypical development. That being the case the logical question is: "So?" As is often the case in any field of inquiry, that is the question. But I suspect what is really being avoided here is Se, because the thing is the atypical Fi development alone won't explain the anomalousness here to how NiTe is usually thought of. |
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Post by vincent on Aug 19, 2020 10:12:21 GMT -5
Right, i agree completely.
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Post by Roshan on Aug 19, 2020 10:16:27 GMT -5
Actually, being a jumper isn't just about "showing a lot of" tertiary. It's about the way tertiary develops first, covers a larger than usual spectrum, has a wider range of sustained uses, to the point of competing with auxiliary, which then get subdued, etc..
But to get that you need to look at the gestalt holistically, and you need to look at slot-specific behaviors. Measuring nostrils, brows and "signals" won't cut it.
I know being a jumper isn't just about showing a lot of third and that's what was avoided. And as I said when our posts just crossed, I suspect the reason it was avoided (subconsciously I assume) was that it's not going to account for everything. It would have failed. And then the Se factor would have really had to be looked at. And then Auburn would have had to either assign a IIII or admit that a whole new level of inquiry has to be introduced, wherein a function is not being fully used but absolutely must be fully taken into account. What the latter does is threaten "Si" categories. Whereas this is like catnip to TiNe. The more potential Ti factors the merrier...what the former does is maintain 'social currency'...IIII is very, very, very rare so... |
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Post by vincent on Aug 20, 2020 15:49:39 GMT -5
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Post by Roshan on Sept 13, 2020 18:03:33 GMT -5
Oops. I thought those videos exemplified fireside sx/so 6 at age 59. I just found out what differentiates me from other 641's is my cognitive type. There is no such thing as instincts. The issue is I'm NiTe. WHY DIDN'T SOMEBODY TELL ME SOONER?!!
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