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Post by Roshan on May 10, 2020 16:04:48 GMT -5
Putting this up for vincent because he said he has trouble with his c.t. I can see why. We can just chew on it a bit.
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Post by Roshan on May 10, 2020 16:07:26 GMT -5
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Post by Roshan on May 10, 2020 17:26:44 GMT -5
Click Spanish subtitles twice first.
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Post by Roshan on May 10, 2020 17:29:31 GMT -5
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Post by Roshan on May 10, 2020 17:43:51 GMT -5
This is his rendition of a speech he gave to a tribunal?
"The philosophers of ancient India upheld the principle of active resistance to arbitrary authority. They justified revolution and very often put their theories into practice. One of their spiritual leaders used to say that 'an opinion held by the majority is stronger than the king himself. A rope woven of many strands is strong enough to hold a lion.'
The city states of Greece and republican Rome not only admitted, but defended the meting-out of violent death to tyrants.
In the Middle Ages, John Salisbury in his Book of the Statesman says that when a prince does not govern according to law and degenerates into a tyrant, violent overthrow is legitimate and justifiable. He recommends for tyrants the dagger rather than poison..."
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Post by Roshan on May 10, 2020 17:51:49 GMT -5
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Post by Roshan on May 10, 2020 17:56:00 GMT -5
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Post by Roshan on May 10, 2020 18:00:35 GMT -5
Around 6
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Post by Roshan on May 10, 2020 18:02:34 GMT -5
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Post by Roshan on May 10, 2020 18:09:51 GMT -5
"''I began revolution with 82 men. If I had [to] do it again, I do it with 10 or 15 and absolute faith. It does not matter how small you are if you have faith and plan of action.'' --Fidel Castro, New York Times (April 22, 1959).
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Post by Roshan on May 10, 2020 18:15:41 GMT -5
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Post by Roshan on May 10, 2020 18:25:58 GMT -5
But in the documentary, in college, "I want glory and fame"....
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Post by vincent on May 10, 2020 18:54:44 GMT -5
Thanks a lot for the links I'll watch them closely soon.
Haven't read the rest of the thread yet.
I want to "process" him on my own first before i do so.
For now and FWIW i'm "tempted" by FeNi Ni subtype and NiFe,** but none of those types fully "click for now". Seems too embodied for Se inf.
But seems too embodied for Si polr too, in a way. Also too much Fi for Fi 5th and still too Fe-Ti to be gamma. Maybe it's Fi 6th and his physicality is how Si role manifest in him ? Strong body to serve strong convictions... I don't know.
I can't "dive" on his typing right now but it will be an interesting one for sure.
(**EDIT: ftr, for people other than vincent, those were typings I suggested in an early post that I then deleted along with all my other speculations about type to leave the thread 'clean', so to say, for speculation. Afterwards, when I found I had a more solid idea, I posted it.--Roshan as 'admin').
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Post by Roshan on May 10, 2020 19:07:48 GMT -5
The 1957 New York Times reporter Herbert Matthews'scoop on Castro, proclaimed dead, in the mountains:
"[His] program is vague and couched in generalities, but it amounts to a new deal for Cuba, radical, democratic, and therefore anti-Communist. The real core of its strength is that it is fighting against the military dictatorship of President Batista._--wiki
See, Castro was vague and impulsive. But he had talked a good game about 'what is to be done' in general.
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Post by Roshan on May 10, 2020 19:30:18 GMT -5
So Castro impetuously twice hurled himself into two disastrous Quixotic attacks where most of his followers got massacred or executed. If fate had not been fate, these attacks could be seen as foolhardy, absurd. The first one he got the idea for when he was down and out and didn't know what to do next with his life. It seems he was able to precipitously gather people for it and he even said if they were killed they'd be a symbol. He was supposed to be executed with the others who survived but the church interceded on his behalf for some reason. With all those dead people's blood on his hands he went and got some more to launch another doomed attack. That time he just happened to be one of those who escaped to the Sierra.
Cuban political culture was center-left; a lot of people were against Batista; his 'program' was standard, and the university had been a hotbed of violent insurrections since the 30s. He didn't really introduce anything new, he rode the Zeitgeist. The horrific treatment that his first band of men and those of a couple of others like him received, along with Batista's corruption, poisoned almost the entire population against Batista. Not how he planned, but how he got people killed and happened to survive, won the public's favor. The second time, when Castro escaped to the Sierra, a mythology was created around him by the liberal American press. He never specified what his Revolution would be. He rode the Zeitgeist; he was like a leavening agent and the spirit of revolution was the bread around him. But he didn't really spearhead a Revolution so much as ride one.
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