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Post by Roshan on Feb 2, 2020 5:40:23 GMT -5
It's impossible to do justice to this person with one video but I'll start here. She is now Natalie Wynn but started the transitioning process in 2017, so around the time of this video. I think she is FiNe with all functions developed and particularly strong Ti role.
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Post by vincent on Feb 2, 2020 6:02:26 GMT -5
My first immediate reaction was "Hmmm...Se polr ? really ?" with skeptical eyebrow raise. Because the usual lack of agression and the "neither prey nor predator" energetic signature wasn't there.
But looking closer, all the power expressed here is either Ne authority or Te competence. Not actual Se. ENFP isn't an option either : not enough Se for role, way too much Ti for polr. But if it's INFP (which is likely indeed) it's probably Ne subtype (with good development and well contained polr).
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Post by Roshan on Feb 2, 2020 6:07:28 GMT -5
I know vincent , I considered the polr at length. Ti polr is beyond out of the question. She quit a PhD philosophy program. I believe the Se polr is contained in the having lived in the head and needed to reconcile multiple selves through multiple lives, multiple roles, though coming into her own personal/professional power through making CONTRA points, transitioning publicly, etc.
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Post by Roshan on Feb 2, 2020 6:11:15 GMT -5
My VERY first initial impression of her (in a more straight ahead talking video) was NiTe extroverting like me but it did NOT hold up long at all.
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Post by vincent on Feb 2, 2020 6:16:32 GMT -5
My VERY first initial impression of her (in a more straight ahead talking video) was NiTe extroverting like me but it did NOT hold up long at all.
I considered it too.
And also considered NeTi in shadow NiTe mode.
But the thing is she is VERY INTJish in some pics, but only in some pics.
It doesn't seem to be something she can sustain for very long.
And it doesn't seem to come from a place of unhealth.
And that's actually consistent with Nx subtype + strong Te seeking.
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Post by Roshan on Feb 2, 2020 6:24:49 GMT -5
I know she is VERY INTJish but doesn't sustain it. This video, one of the first I watched, could almost be me in many ways. But....
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Post by Roshan on Feb 2, 2020 6:27:43 GMT -5
subtly the may I call it time/space axis is lateral, not longitudinal. Ne scans the panorama (pan out) and Si catalogues. Not Ni telescopes the panorama (pan in) and Se crystalizes.
I think.
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Post by Roshan on Feb 2, 2020 6:38:46 GMT -5
Also, teaching a class gave 'taste of absolute power'. Why? "When I realized I'm not the next Nabokov..." Why Nabakov?
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Post by Roshan on Feb 2, 2020 6:45:20 GMT -5
fwiw my INFP playwright/novelist/musician ex-husband's favorite novel, no holes barred, was Lolita vincent .
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Post by vincent on Feb 2, 2020 6:46:07 GMT -5
I know she is VERY INTJish but doesn't sustain it. This video, one of the first I watched, could almost be me in many ways. But....
Haha. I find this one cathartically fun.
Because, needless to say, there is a lot of similarity and overlap between her experience of academic philosophy and mine.
(I have my own version of this "my good friend Derrida" teacher, and so on).
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Post by vincent on Feb 2, 2020 6:47:09 GMT -5
subtly the may I call it time/space axis is lateral, not longitudinal. Ne scans the panorama (pan out) and Si catalogues. Not Ni telescopes the panorama (pan in) and Se crystalizes. I think.
I agree.
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Post by vincent on Feb 2, 2020 6:51:41 GMT -5
#3 fwiw my INFP playwright/novelist/musician ex-husband's favorite novel, no holes barred, was Lolita vincent .
Makes sense.
Puer Aeternus as auxiliary function.
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Post by Roshan on Feb 2, 2020 6:53:31 GMT -5
I think this one also captures that the frame is Fi and she's been tricking us with very strong Ti role and 'found' Te. Especially the end. Se polr, the underlying sense is of smallness, and the Te scalpel, though wielded, is more tenuous than 'tool'.
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Post by Roshan on Feb 2, 2020 6:59:27 GMT -5
"I don't like things that are hard...I wanna feel good now"...like I said, my FIRST impression was extroverting NiTe but it didn't last. And also it seems like as she transitioned the 'naive Ne eyes' got bigger too. And you can't fake this. It feels like she was working out a 'problem' for years (should I or shouldn't I?) and once she 'solved' it she left Ni demo and went to Ne tool.
She seems 'heart-centered' cognitive frame and wide with wonder panoramic tool.
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Post by Roshan on Feb 2, 2020 7:08:19 GMT -5
I mean I say she 'left Ni demo'. Of course she didn't. This can certainly be seen as demonstrating Ni (from the bottomless depths of the infinite swamp of my soul) but she isn't as energetically 'taut' and 'telescoped' as she was, and neither are her concerns.
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