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Fi polr
Jan 26, 2020 20:45:40 GMT -5
Post by Roshan on Jan 26, 2020 20:45:40 GMT -5
So what's Fi polr? What's polr anyway? Why 'point of least resistance'? For that matter, what's Fi (hahaha)? In this interminable snaking hallucinatory thread thing I found this post. It reads merely: "Fi PoLR is simply this: when someone sympathizes or resonates with your emotional state (or, contrarily, if they display the exact opposite of your emotional state), you are more likely to give no resistance to their request -- or it's more likely that your emotional state will be altered by the other person.
Fi PoLR has little to nothing to do with being socially acceptable or a rude asshole.
There are plenty of people with strong Fi who are complete jerks."Na, und? www.the16types.info/vbulletin/showthread.php/3740-Fi-PoLR-Misunderstood/page12 |
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Post by vincent on Jan 27, 2020 8:57:33 GMT -5
As often in this kind of thread it's a bunch of half truths with good intent.
Being vulnerable to emotional argumentation and manipulation happens to Fi polr people, yes, but it's hardly specific to them.
It happens to some degree to all types with "Fe over Fi". So Fi polr but ALSO Fi ignoring AND Fi inf.
And we could add unhealthy Fi aux to the list.
"Fi polr has nothing to do with being socially acceptable or a rude asshole".
Yeah, not directly.
Except people who don't realize they are angry, don't know why, don't care why and don't know how to calm down will sometimes spend 2h yelling at you for no reason before their Ti kicks in and realize that, ooops, they have been rude assholes.
Polr is basically "that thing other people do" and "that thing i apparently can't learn".
Fi is basically emotional metacognition
So Fi polr will manifest as a lack of emotional nuance (not necessarily of emotional intensity).
Fi polr people typically have a hard time making the difference between a mood, a feeling, an emotion, a value, a taste, etc.
They often show delayed awareness or blurred awareness of their internal states
they usually don't process emotional ambivalence well and don't deliberate on it actively.
They don't get what triggers them and don't understand psychological causality clearly.
and so on.
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Fi polr
Jan 27, 2020 11:03:22 GMT -5
Post by Roshan on Jan 27, 2020 11:03:22 GMT -5
Fi is basically emotional metacognition So Fi polr will manifest as a lack of emotional nuance (not necessarily of emotional intensity). Fi polr people typically have a hard time making telling the difference between a mood, a feeling, an emotion, a value, a taste, etc. They often show delayed awareness or blurred awareness of their internal states they usually don't process emotional ambivalence well and don't deliberate on it actively. They don't get what triggers them and don't understand psychological causality clearly. and so on. So why is it called point of least resistance? (That's what caught my eye about that post. It was trying to capture something about lack of energetic force toward/against something).
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Post by vincent on Jan 27, 2020 11:34:47 GMT -5
That's indeed what it is. Lack of energetic force toward and against a specific type of datas.
The term "polr" comes from the concept of "7th function hits". Initially.
It started with the observation that when we are confronted to our 7th functions in a negative way ("hit by it"), we can't fight back with it.
Instead the energy will have a tendency to move to another function as fast as possible.
That's also why you will find alternate names like "vulnerable function" and "painful function".
But unlike what the post suggest, it doesn't really make Fi polr people easier to "alter", because even if they don't resist well against your attempt, they won't invest toward it either.
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Fi polr
Jan 28, 2020 11:33:58 GMT -5
Post by Roshan on Jan 28, 2020 11:33:58 GMT -5
Fi is basically emotional metacognition So Fi polr will manifest as a lack of emotional nuance (not necessarily of emotional intensity). Fi polr people typically have a hard time making the difference between a mood, a feeling, an emotion, a value, a taste, etc. They often show delayed awareness or blurred awareness of their internal states they usually don't process emotional ambivalence well and don't deliberate on it actively. They don't get what triggers them and don't understand psychological causality clearly. and so on. So this is the point of least resistance to what? To cognitive information about their internal emotional states? Meaning they might roll with it turbulently in 'overkill' mode in a chaotic emotionally intense state, or they might just ignore it but what they won't do is meet the internal emotional state with cognitive awareness? The least resistance is like 'least marshaling of forces toward..." So there could be a willy nilly battle, a bloodbath, a massacre, or a reflexive unthinking retreat, or a sleeping through the whole thing...what there isn't is harnessing of cognition to not so much 'resist' as actually just grapple with the information for starters? |
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Fi polr
Jan 28, 2020 11:49:43 GMT -5
Post by vincent on Jan 28, 2020 11:49:43 GMT -5
Fi is basically emotional metacognition So Fi polr will manifest as a lack of emotional nuance (not necessarily of emotional intensity). Fi polr people typically have a hard time making the difference between a mood, a feeling, an emotion, a value, a taste, etc. They often show delayed awareness or blurred awareness of their internal states they usually don't process emotional ambivalence well and don't deliberate on it actively. They don't get what triggers them and don't understand psychological causality clearly. and so on. So this is the point of least resistance to what? To cognitive information about their internal emotional states? Meaning they might roll with it turbulently in 'overkill' mode in a chaotic emotionally intense state, or they might just ignore it but what they won't do is meet the internal emotional state with cognitive awareness? The least resistance is like 'least marshaling of forces toward..." So there could be a willy nilly battle, a bloodbath, a massacre, or a reflexive unthinking retreat, or a sleeping through the whole thing...what there isn't is harnessing of cognition to not so much 'resist' as actually just grapple with the information for starters?
Yes, precisely.
And it affects a very wide range of things. Fromtheir ability to speak about their tastes in an nuanced and consolidated way to their ability to estimate the degree of closeness of a relationship.
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