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Post by Roshan on Jan 23, 2020 11:34:03 GMT -5
Need complete typing for Daniel Luepker, Chicago progressive political commentator.
Right now am at so/sx 9w8(1w9)-5w6(6w7)-2w3(3w4), but am by no means settled on everything.
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Post by vincent on Jan 24, 2020 10:59:38 GMT -5
the stacking sounds right to me.
So does 9w8(1w9) and 2w3 heart.
The head is the fix i'm the least sure of, but 5w6(6w7) seems also likely.
What's your hesitation with him ?
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Post by Roshan on Jan 25, 2020 12:48:38 GMT -5
Don't really think I have a problem anymore, vincent . Think I resolved it while posting. Hard Lens Media main commentator team is three people and the third, Kit Cabello, would sit in the center and kind of lead the show but he's taken time off. Daniel Luepker used to hang back more and I thought he might be 2w1 heart or some other difference here. But watching him now that he's in the forefront, I see a LOT of 2w3 'host' and nothing Oneish unaccounted for by 9 calibration into the 'moral space' and 5w6 wormhole to 1w9. So now I think part of the reason he was hanging back was because of sx 5 'secrets'. He does seem very image last and this image now seems to be coming from behind a rather intriguing wall of 'avarice', like 'mystery' but 'cute' style--and also stiff and rather 'alien'. I think this is the right typing. Head may appear more 6w7ish than 5w6ish at first glance but I think that is because of 2w3 heart and the stacking on 9. Really, he is not 'spontaneous', almost 359 Occultation and Mastery, but again, 'cute' style. Not organically spontaneous though he is "off the cuff", as 5 deep in 6 and so/sx will often be. So I think 259 ET Interpersonal Extraterrestrial works for him and the "I'll be right here" of that tritype in any order was also part of the previous hanging back--with sp 2 last 'proud to be humble', sit and wait...patiently...and then the fun begins...c.t. for him btw? |
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Post by vincent on Jan 25, 2020 13:37:46 GMT -5
I'm not sure at all of his ct typing.
The overall vibe and his cuteness reminds me of some ENFPs.
But Ti polr seems unlikely so it's prolly not the right typing.
Doesn't seem "metaphysical" enough for ENTP either.
Maybe a "soft" SeTi or a "strong" SiFe.
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Post by Roshan on Jan 26, 2020 10:22:33 GMT -5
I doubt that he's Delta, vincent . He has most of these SeTi signals But he really doesn't have 'Ti complete emotional neutralization'. What could be seen as being under a heavy 'Te demonstrative' (I guess) is more like an emotional intensity with anxiety/disconnect. cognitivetype.com/seti-vultology/ Prominent Signals P Fluid Posture P Ongoing Movements P Eye Centric Pe Alert/Wide Eyes Pe Bubbling Momentum Pe Body Swaying Se Taut Eye Area Se Locked-on Eyes Se Amped Eyes Se Hyped Perk-Up Se Moderate Eye Toggling Ti Absent Tension Ti Complete Emotional Neutralization Ti Stop-Start Fe On-Beat Emphasis Fe Persona Sensitivity Ni Unblinking Eyes Ni Intense Scowl Also he's similar to these 'exemplars' in many ways but lacks the basic grounded embodiment of the Se frame in spades. cognitivetype.com/seti-definitive-vultology/ |
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Post by Roshan on Jan 26, 2020 10:28:43 GMT -5
What about TiSe creative subtype?
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Post by vincent on Jan 26, 2020 10:33:23 GMT -5
Hmmm, maybe it's Te role piercing through Ti inf
And maybe it's Se tertiary rather than primary.
Si polr would account for the "lack of the basic grounded embodiment".
That would makes him ENFJ. Maybe even "FeSe jumper".
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Post by Roshan on Jan 26, 2020 10:35:06 GMT -5
I don't think he jumps. He seems to use intuition heavily.
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Post by Roshan on Jan 26, 2020 10:35:51 GMT -5
Another argument against Se frame btw.
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Post by vincent on Jan 26, 2020 10:36:25 GMT -5
What about TiSe creative subtype? He doesn't seem "removed" enough for Ti frame. And he doesn't strike me as low on interfacing functions. |
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Post by vincent on Jan 26, 2020 10:37:35 GMT -5
I don't think he jumps. He seems to use intuition heavily. Then my money would be on FeNi with good tertiary |
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Post by Roshan on Jan 26, 2020 10:45:06 GMT -5
He definitely seems (to me) to be using Te heavily but more as a role, if not a demonstration. He speaks like a lawyer in a courtroom, holding up the evidence, folding up the paper...but this Te doesn't seem to be coming from the first three slots; it seems more like a performance than a process.
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Post by Roshan on Jan 26, 2020 10:50:03 GMT -5
I don't get the impression that he sweated any bullets to come up with any rigorous apprehension of the amount of reporting v. negative propaganda in that article he folds for us--as you would, I think, if I did something like that. It seems more like he 'soaked in' the pragmatic logical sense-making (Te) of this context as a corollary of other processes and now offers it out to support what was apprehended by those processes, if that makes sense.
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Post by vincent on Jan 26, 2020 10:56:08 GMT -5
There is very little actual demonstration here, as far as i can tell.
No need for shadowing.
But when he does demonstrate it's
-to ridiculize bad autorship of ideas : "if they tell you gravity doesn't exist, gravity doesn't exist"
-to deny the novelty of an idea "it's the exact same thing"
-to suggest weaponized thought experiments "if Tulsi Gabbard was a white man"
that's consistent with Ne 6th.
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Post by Roshan on Jan 26, 2020 10:59:13 GMT -5
I don't understand why you choose these three particular things as examples of sixth slot 'demonstration', vincent. |
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