Post by Admin on Apr 1, 2015 15:36:39 GMT -5
(EDIT 12/20/20: the recording was taken offline for copyright infringement)
The following is a direct transcription of Naranjo's intro to his talk on the 27 different subtypes.This talk was part of his workshop at the IEA in 2004. Below it are summaries of his descriptions of each subtype. From the video series here in the OP:
enneaforum.freeforums.net/thread/15/naranjos-subtypes-instinctual-variants?page=1
We are providing this here for our members as a resource for efficient reference.
Introduction:
"The subject of subtypes is a little like the subject of types; not like ornithology or botany, a matter of knowing that this person has such and such attributes, this [sic] characteristics and you are very smart because you notice them. It’s more a matter of finding what the core of the problem is, what the centre is, the hidden Capital Sins, from Caput – head – the idea of defects in the mind that are the source of many other problems. Mostly it’s obscurations of problems with spiritual life. But, of course, problems with life in general, we know that problems begin in human relationships and everything you do. If your pride is too much, or your lust is too much, you can’t do anything right. You end up doing…uh…being your worst enemy.
So, the idea of subtypes is the same. It’s uh…I call them confidentially with Matthew Fox about the word “passion”, I myself have second thoughts even though I use passion in a very specific way, sometimes I explain as equivalent to Maslow’s idea of deficiency motivation – ways, forms of motivation that are ways, forms of filling an emptiness, rather than forms of abundance. You can either live abundantly out of a sense of being or because you don’t have a sense of being you are doing , trying to fill that void with your lust for more life or more intensity or with your desire for more credentials or more applause or filling it up with knowledge, or whatever the issue is.
So, the same with subtypes, I’ll try to describe the essential neurotic need, is the term I am going to be using – the neurotic need characteristic of the different characters; 27 of them. They are, you could say, the offspring of the main problems, of envy, of pride and all of that. They’re derivatives. And they have to do something with instinct that’s as if they were a cross. You say, if you have fear for instance. You can have different kinds of fear depending on where the fear is. Connected to the realm of preservation, then it’s a fear that makes you want more protection. It turns into a thirst for protection. But, if your fear is more social, then it’s a fear of doing the wrong thing, because the authority might catch you. That, in principle is the idea – the different passions or sins of the nine-fold can become a twenty-seven-fold, because each becomes three main varieties."
As quoted from Claudio Naranjo audio recording.
The following is a direct transcription of Naranjo's intro to his talk on the 27 different subtypes.This talk was part of his workshop at the IEA in 2004. Below it are summaries of his descriptions of each subtype. From the video series here in the OP:
enneaforum.freeforums.net/thread/15/naranjos-subtypes-instinctual-variants?page=1
We are providing this here for our members as a resource for efficient reference.
Introduction:
"The subject of subtypes is a little like the subject of types; not like ornithology or botany, a matter of knowing that this person has such and such attributes, this [sic] characteristics and you are very smart because you notice them. It’s more a matter of finding what the core of the problem is, what the centre is, the hidden Capital Sins, from Caput – head – the idea of defects in the mind that are the source of many other problems. Mostly it’s obscurations of problems with spiritual life. But, of course, problems with life in general, we know that problems begin in human relationships and everything you do. If your pride is too much, or your lust is too much, you can’t do anything right. You end up doing…uh…being your worst enemy.
So, the idea of subtypes is the same. It’s uh…I call them confidentially with Matthew Fox about the word “passion”, I myself have second thoughts even though I use passion in a very specific way, sometimes I explain as equivalent to Maslow’s idea of deficiency motivation – ways, forms of motivation that are ways, forms of filling an emptiness, rather than forms of abundance. You can either live abundantly out of a sense of being or because you don’t have a sense of being you are doing , trying to fill that void with your lust for more life or more intensity or with your desire for more credentials or more applause or filling it up with knowledge, or whatever the issue is.
So, the same with subtypes, I’ll try to describe the essential neurotic need, is the term I am going to be using – the neurotic need characteristic of the different characters; 27 of them. They are, you could say, the offspring of the main problems, of envy, of pride and all of that. They’re derivatives. And they have to do something with instinct that’s as if they were a cross. You say, if you have fear for instance. You can have different kinds of fear depending on where the fear is. Connected to the realm of preservation, then it’s a fear that makes you want more protection. It turns into a thirst for protection. But, if your fear is more social, then it’s a fear of doing the wrong thing, because the authority might catch you. That, in principle is the idea – the different passions or sins of the nine-fold can become a twenty-seven-fold, because each becomes three main varieties."
As quoted from Claudio Naranjo audio recording.
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