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Post by ahmed on Jul 25, 2021 1:30:57 GMT -5
good morning from the mediterranean (and other) lands
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Post by ahmed on Jul 25, 2021 1:44:26 GMT -5
Fellini's stamp is also all over Bob Dylan, and Dylan particularly references La Dolce Vita (which, damn, i still need to watch) in Motorpsycho Nitemare. and it continue(d/s) to permeate through the rest of his later ("electric" era) work.
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Post by Roshan on Jul 25, 2021 1:46:03 GMT -5
Ah... This video came to my mind for "Captured Time". The video is 1967, the chorus references The Miller's Tale of Chaucer's Canterbury Tales, and the music is based on Bach.
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Post by ahmed on Jul 25, 2021 2:05:18 GMT -5
and ooh regarding "Captured Time" as a title, "Sculpting in Time" literal translation from Russian is Captured Time Gotta cram in my activity partner somehow
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Post by Roshan on Jul 25, 2021 2:31:07 GMT -5
and ooh regarding "Captured Time" as a title, "Sculpting in Time" literal translation from Russian is Captured Time Gotta cram in my activity partner somehow Riiiiight...good ol' Sculpting in Time. I didn't know it was Captured Time in Russian. I thought Sculpting in Time really captured...him. Tarkovsky is GOAT.
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Post by ahmed on Jul 28, 2021 5:51:13 GMT -5
Indifference has not made you any different.
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Post by Roshan on Jul 28, 2021 10:47:27 GMT -5
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Post by Roshan on Jul 28, 2021 11:47:07 GMT -5
Sorry, M. Queysanne, toi aussi. (He doesn't have an English wiki article).
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Post by Roshan on Jul 28, 2021 11:58:47 GMT -5
Perec's background reminds me of Paul Celan. Greatest German language poet of the second half of the 20th century. (Rilke being for the first). His mother also died in the camps, and Celan was himself interned. Prior to these experiences he wasn't really that great of a poet actually. His most famous poem, Death Fugue, is also one of his most accessible from his post WWII opus. He reads it here in captured time. And here's a very good translation with notes in links ahmed .
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Post by Roshan on Jul 28, 2021 12:15:42 GMT -5
Fellini's stamp is also all over Bob Dylan, and Dylan particularly references La Dolce Vita (which, damn, i still need to watch) in Motorpsycho Nitemare. Funny, I had somehow missed this post and didn't even know it was up when I posted this. (Dylan's a screechingly obvious emblematic 6 who's always been typed as 4 or 5 by 'teachers' who think they have a 4 or 5 fix and use 6 --and some other types--as a spittoon for their despised narcissistic traits, yanno 'not a 'creative genius' like they are ).
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Post by Roshan on Jul 28, 2021 12:21:12 GMT -5
I gotta say I have a soft spot for this video a pro pos of 'captured time'.
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Post by ahmed on Jul 28, 2021 12:22:15 GMT -5
The internet is pretty cool
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Post by Roshan on Jul 28, 2021 12:27:11 GMT -5
ugh, that's not the exact right video. The positioning of the lyrics defaces it and it doesn't end on the right photo. I'll look more but I think the old one is gone. EDIT: Nope, no luck. That one will have to do. I recalled the original one ending with the still of Bob and Joan next to the sign saying "Protest against the rising tide". That may be an embellishment of my own memory but I really don't think it was overrun by the lyrics or had a mini-essay on Baez. Ironically, Baez's diction is so unusually clear that she's like the last singer who needs the lyrics written out. Go figure).
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Post by Roshan on Jul 28, 2021 12:52:01 GMT -5
hmmm...it's kinda growing on me. I'm endowing the defacing lyrics with the symbolic meaning of how memory cannot truly capture time, more so than because of our limited capacity for retention, because our intellect, our meaning making, overwrites our experiences. The Joan stuff at the end though--that's gotta go. And needless to say, it's not entirely impossible the original version never existed.
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Post by Roshan on Jul 28, 2021 13:06:36 GMT -5
At this point I'm sorely tempted to assume the lyrics are placed that way for that very symbolic purpose except...that prosaic dull thud of an ending. "A distinctive song about Bob Dylan." Yeesh. There's no way around this. You have to make a new one ahmed .
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