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Post by Roshan on Jun 18, 2021 23:25:11 GMT -5
Very healthy FeSi?
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Post by anthony on Jun 19, 2021 6:42:47 GMT -5
Wow. I was a bit shaken by that story near the beginning about the boy who shot the deputy sheriff.
I agree with the FeSi typing, and yes he seems to be very healthy.
He seems to be both competently dealing with and competently articulating the issues permeating the societal maTrIx with respect to Criminal Justice and Race—issues that we've definitely disregarded.
He's treating the issues urgently, and unlike most, it seems, he actually sees the value in encouraging a conversation about the narrative surrounding issues even in the past(like Slavery in the U.S.), and this seems especially alpha quadra.
Throughout the talk, he also doles out various good ways for us to both recognize and solve some of these issues, always beginning his explanations with an Si 'story' that he gifts to us, and it ultimately struck me as healthy Ne agenda.
Near the beginning I wondered if he was TeSi with good Fe role...but his approach ultimately seems too oriented around encouraging up a healthy conversation in the ways we've usually seen with alpha quadra.
EDIT: This is strange. My text is showing up as though it were a link, like you can click on it, except when you do nothing happens...
EDIT 2: I fixed it.
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Post by Roshan on Jun 19, 2021 13:34:24 GMT -5
Wow. I was a bit shaken by that story near the beginning about the boy who shot the deputy sheriff.
There's a lot there that's very disturbing.Here are a couple of old Walter McMillian news pieces back to back (the guy he got off Death Row.) You can see Stevenson in there when he's younger.I agree with the FeSi typing, and yes he seems to be very healthy. He seems to be both competently dealing with and competently articulating the issues permeating the societal maTrIx with respect to Criminal Justice and Race—issues that we've definitely disregarded. Well, he would have to have found Ti I think to be that good of a lawyer and to run his organization. Te role wouldn't be enough.
Also, I wouldn't say I've been disregarding these issues. More like intentionally not adding to the strident cacaphony of their weaponization against the proverbial Straight White Strawman as personally responsible for everything that ever went wrong--for political ends bound to end badly.
He's treating the issues urgently, and unlike most, it seems, he actually sees the value in encouraging a conversation about the narrative surrounding issues even in the past(like Slavery in the U.S.), and this seems especially alpha quadra. How so? It's also alpha against math because sexist/racist and alpha for the breakaway republic of Chaz. I think I get what you're getting at but can you be more specific? Alpha also can talk more shit and longer than pretty much anyone. What's special here that's high alpha? There's one word he keeps using...Throughout the talk, he also doles out various good ways for us to both recognize and solve some of these issues, always beginning his explanations with an Si 'story' that he gifts to us, and it ultimately struck me as healthy Ne agenda. Near the beginning I wondered if he was TeSi with good Fe role...but his approach ultimately seems too oriented around encouraging up a healthy conversation in the ways we've usually seen with alpha quadra. hmmm....he seems way too soft for Te dominant (although when younger perhaps not as much). He seems very high Fe--and I assume you mean 'in the ways we've usually seen with alpha quadra high side'.  But Brett does it with his delta semi-dual wife, Viva is dualized to his wife and now has beta business partner. I get the sense Bryan Stevenson got this from a healthy mother--who very well might have been one of those types. Sounds like he grew up with some pretty heavy 'both sides of high S' 'Goddess style'. (Now you go tell that boy you laughed at that you love him...or else...)
(In any case we are starting to have some TeSi/FeSi overlap so we should keep an eye on this.... ) |
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Post by Roshan on Jun 19, 2021 14:45:57 GMT -5
hmmm....this came up and it's interesting to compare...
Loury is I guess SiFe and Carlson is for sure TeSi. Carlson is a mixed bag, imo a Three that can't quite take the plunge to give up deceitful polarizing at 6 for identity and profit, so no high 9. But in his new long format (his studio is now in very rural Maine), he's more relaxed, and it's quite interesting to compare them both to Stevenson, since they engage the same topic (race and criminal justice). Glenn is I guess a liberal centrist; he hesitated to go on Tucker. And Tucker is Tucker.
So this is probably either Stevenson's mirror and business partner, or, (far?) less likely, supervisee and lower health identical.
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Post by vincent on Jun 20, 2021 8:23:37 GMT -5
Yes, that sounds absolutely right to me.
A very healthy and pretty inspiring one.
I would be ready to be reverse supervised (and that doesn't happen everyday).
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Post by vincent on Jun 20, 2021 8:30:34 GMT -5
Near the beginning I wondered if he was TeSi with good Fe role...but his approach ultimately seems too oriented around encouraging up a healthy conversation in the ways we've usually seen with alpha quadra. TeSi didn't cross my mind at all while i was watching. It seems impossible he might be my conflictor.
What i did consider, early and shortly, was SiFe.
But there is just no way he is Te polr.
Sure, role function can be good, but i doubt it can be that organically good.
The thing is role function is usually good in specific domains and areas, and/or in relatively relaxed circumstances.
I really don't get the impression that Bryan Stevenson's Fe would be very different in different circumstances nor that it would crumble under pressure and get overhelmed.
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Post by Roshan on Jun 20, 2021 8:34:41 GMT -5
Good, so since you agree so strongly, vincent , I'll consider that this a done deal unless someone objects--and that Tucker is there to compare and contrast different types that have the same inner axis. And again, with Bryan Ti is found, with Tucker it is still often ignored. So in a way Bryan has 'more seamless T' than Tucker, and oc Tucker's demonstrative Se is more reactive. I see Bryan as more of a supervisor myself. What happens is he isn't really Ni PolR anymore because, by choosing to go to the dark places, and stay there and face the dark even when he wanted to quit, he found the true 'power of love'. We get back to Empedocles. Four elements and 'love and strife'. |
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Post by Roshan on Jun 20, 2021 8:44:47 GMT -5
What i did consider, early and shortly, was SiFe.
I did consider this later. (And opened up the possibility that he might be TeSi even though anthony had already said FeSi due to the parallel issue with Jack.) But tbh he initially struck me as FeSi and only FeSi. I just posted to make sure it wasn't perhaps FeNi after all since I get no allergy. None. Only in retrospect did I wonder, why haven't I considered SiFe? |
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Post by Roshan on Jun 20, 2021 8:48:02 GMT -5
(And I think the reason is--and we have seen this before--that I am Fe-hypersensitive due to it being PolR.)
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But Brett does it with his delta semi-dual wife, Viva is dualized to his wife and now has beta business partner. I get the sense Bryan Stevenson got this from a healthy mother--who very well might have been one of those types. Sounds like he grew up with some pretty heavy 'both sides of high S' 'Goddess style'. (Now you go tell that boy you laughed at that you love him...or else...)
