anthony
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Post by anthony on May 3, 2020 22:17:05 GMT -5
I found this guy's youtube channel when researching dieting and exercise routines for building muscle. He's kind of cartoonish but really I found him quite interesting. He's pretty distinct from most of the youtubers in terms of maintaining authenticity, providing genuine support, and tailoring his content to make it relatable. He gets a lot of flack for being a 'tryhard alpha male,' but I actually find him quite endearing . He seems to have 3w2, 6w7, and 8w9(9w1) in some order, Sp/So<-->So/Sx stream. I think the 8w9(9w1) leads. He's definitely close to 'exerting affection.'
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Post by Roshan on May 4, 2020 8:22:13 GMT -5
anthony, only one minute into the second and haven't watched the first yet but I'll bet money the Six is leading. Often very hard to tell energetically what's leading when you have 6 and 8 together, but the entire opening of this video is based on projection. Secure men zip it instead of giving a thousand protests, so here's my thousand protests to those insecure men who... tbct'd
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Post by Roshan on May 4, 2020 8:30:02 GMT -5
Oh, now I see that when he was done and going over the video, he caught himself out in this logical conundrum. So what did he do? He stuck in a legalistic disclaimer. at 54 seconds "The only exception" is himself in his video addressing comments to him. "The only".
Head type of the 'Persecuted Persecutor' (Ichazo) variety, Level 6 Authoritarian Rebel (Don) leads. Eights with Six won't do this. Under stress they'll still either expand or contract to expand. (Movement to 5.) They'll strategize. Make a new video. Edit this video. Chuck the whole idea of the video. Make a big JOKE in the insert at 54 seconds.
He's attached to this video as is, and so he anxiously but counterphobically resorts to legalism about it, which is the domain of disintegrating 6 (RH). 8-->5 trumps the legalisms of 6 (no pun intended).
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Post by Roshan on May 4, 2020 8:37:53 GMT -5
He seems after watching the first minute twice to be remarkably like a 'beefcake' version of a certain 6 with 3 who typed as 8 in a group in a galaxy far far away...
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Post by Roshan on May 4, 2020 9:14:02 GMT -5
Continuing on, every line delivered is to an imagined 'persecutor' in a tit for tat. It's not that he and 8s won't be intending to convey the same message; it's the form, the structure, of the message that's Six-leading. Counterphobic, head-based, targeted, defensive doubt-denying at every step. The 8 will be foolish about this in a different way. More fool hardy, so to say.
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Post by Roshan on May 4, 2020 9:32:19 GMT -5
He's attached to this video as is, and so he anxiously but counterphobically resorts to legalism about it, which is the domain of disintegrating 6 (cf RH, PT). 8-->5 trumps the legalisms of 6 (no pun intended). Actually everything I've seen so far in the first half of the second video is legalistic. It just has a lot of musculature around it. A good differentiator between 6 with 8 and 8 with 6 can be the extent of legalism. Not legalese, legalism. Legalese is the use of a specific jargon, sentence structure, and forms of expression that intentionally obfuscate. Legalism--the perceived need to rationalize and justify every small point in a targeted way that turns ordinary situations into a court of law. It seems this man can't not be his own accused and lawyer-- and thus his own accuser. No stone, no pebble, unturned. And he could dismiss the judge and jury, just wipe them away in one fell swoop of a power display and go back to talking about bench presses....and in so doing sweep them off even more. Or anyway appear to, and the truly worthy would 'get it' . And after all, who else matters? Potential greatness will recognize Great. That grand yet primitive entitlement would be 8 lead. 6 fix on 8 won't negate it to this extent. Excessive legalism is the opposite of 8.
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anthony
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Post by anthony on May 4, 2020 9:46:10 GMT -5
It was hard to tell whether the 6 or 8 was leading, and whether or not he was sixishly using legalistic technique(and also projection) to, like you said, dismiss the judge and jury and continue 'moving,' which made him seem like he was reluctantly addressing everyone's concerns at once so he could continue forward movement as an 8 would. But you're right that he IS doubt-denying at every step and quite counterphobic, and he does also remind me of that person you mentioned above. Actually with the 6 leading it makes more sense that he would get flack for calling himself 'alpha' and boasting about on youtube, other people won't let him get away with this.
He seems to also REALLY emphasize being a lone wolf in the world and relying on yourself to figure everything out, so I think 6w5 is possible(he's also a bit like a hawk), but at least energetically he seems 6w7(5w6) leading, more of a buddy/'dude'.
Sp/So 6w7(5w6)-8w9(9w1)-3w2(4w3)?
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Post by Roshan on May 4, 2020 10:20:48 GMT -5
so I think 6w5 is possible(he's also a bit like a hawk) 7w8, as core or pronounced subwing, often seems like a hawk. Head strategic vigilant navigation with intent of exteriorized gut expansion. Vigilant predation, very targeted (7 between 5 and 1). Don't know his wing yet though. But "Trapper" and "Hawk" are a little different."Trapper" is usually more slithery, closer to the vest and to the ground. (Avarice leading on the wing).
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Post by Roshan on May 4, 2020 10:28:42 GMT -5
First video opening:
"Many of you have amazing physiques, far better than you even realize, and in this video I'm gonna prove that exactly, using facts and logic. So the first thing I want to bring to your attention is..." (Interspersed with meaningful pregnant pauses through a gridlock penetrating gaze).
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Post by Roshan on May 4, 2020 10:36:19 GMT -5
Then he proceeds to give an analysis of who holds the power and why, using categories he's established. (Talking Style "Setting Limits").
He's not unlike Jordan Peterson with an 8 fix, if JP were a fitness coach...
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Post by Roshan on May 4, 2020 10:56:05 GMT -5
He's rather over-accommodating too. Look at this exchange. I wouldn't rule out 9w8(8w7) fix. Also, since this 'altercation' and no doubt many others, he's made it impossible to friend, follow, or view him on Facebook while continuing to display a few photos of his public AlphaDestiny persona. He has to screen you first through a message. Why? Why does he care so much to both shield himself from and 'establish' his persona to the general public when he could just be really "Alex" or "Alpha" on Facebook? www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1841352626107541&set=picfp.100006984643191&type=3&theater
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Post by Roshan on May 4, 2020 11:02:38 GMT -5
hmmm....he does have a separate facebook page for Alpha. www.facebook.com/outalpha/So where's Alex? Why can't he just be Alex too? He seems too 'merged' with his persona to.
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anthony
Terra9Incognita
Posts: 1,537
Enneagram Core Fix: 9w1
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Post by anthony on May 4, 2020 11:04:11 GMT -5
Wow. Yeah that conversation was very 6/9ish, actually enough to make me give him 9w8(8w7) instead. I can't imagine an 8 fixed 6 'squirreling' around confrontations like that.
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Post by Roshan on May 4, 2020 11:04:54 GMT -5
I also wondered why, of all the videos existing and which could potentially exist, he chose this one on top for his pinned youtube prow of ship. It's so...clumpishly protoplasmic. www.youtube.com/user/TheAlphaDestiny
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Post by Roshan on May 4, 2020 11:06:38 GMT -5
This being the case, he may actually be sx/so 639.
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